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Lionel,

I'm pretty sure they're talking about Bond futures....and there's lots of money
to be made there. (Of course, you can also lose alot.)

Claud

Lionel Issen wrote:

> Daryl"
> You touched on a subject that I know nothing about.  How do people make
> money trading bonds?
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daryl Roberts <darylroberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Neural Nets
>
> > Has anyone on the list had any experience with the "VantagePoint" system,
> > which supposedly does intermarket neural net computations to give signals
> > for a trend continuing or losing momentum ahead of a reversal, & gives
> > projected trading ranges for the day ahead?  They have an interview of
> > Mendelsohn by Murphy, which I haven't seen yet, but suggests
> authentication.
> > And I was referred to an individual, that I spoke to, who claimed to have
> > made $75,000 in his 1st year of using the bond module, stating that he was
> > not being paid by the company to endorse it (and although he seemed candid
> > enough, I still felt a little skeptical).   They offer a demo screen with
> a
> > password, so if it doesn't work right from this link, it may be due to
> some
> > password protected feature; but if anyone does take a look at it, I'd be
> > interested in the list's comments.
> > http://www.profittaker.com/VantagePointdemo.htm   The price, ironically
> > enough given the Jurik satire, is $3,000 per module.
> >
> > Daryl Roberts
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Lionel Issen
> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 9:23 AM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Neural Nets
> >
> > Ross:
> > Mark Jurik is right on in his Snake Oil comments.
> > To paraphrase his remarks, "If you had a goose that laid golden eggs,
> would
> > you sell it?"
> > Lionel Issen
> > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ross Kovacs <rossrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Metastock List <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <jhuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Neural Nets
> >
> >
> > > Linda Bradford Raschke has the most appropriate comment on Neural Nets
> > that
> > > I have seen so far: The big institutions spent tons of money on Ph.D.s
> and
> > > in trading when Neural Nets were first introduced to trading.  None of
> > them
> > > were successful.  If you think you can be successful where they haven't
> > > been, by all means do it.  Personally, I believe that Neural Nets will
> > > eventually be quite valuable in trading.  But no one has found a way
> yet.
> > I
> > > seem to remember Mark Jurik having interesting comments on Neural Nets
> and
> > > their use in trading at his web site www.jurikres.com .  But I can't
> find
> > it
> > > there now.  Mark occasionally monitors this list.  Mark... if my memory
> is
> > > correct, could you point some people to the appropriate place?  I found
> > > Mark's section on Snake Oil to be especially accurate and amusing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ross Kovacs
> > >
> > > rossrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> >

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