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Re: Be Warned about Guru's



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Interesting post, but irrelevant.  This is not a forum for self promotion.  Black
boxes are rarely discussed and it's certainly not a place where anyone would expect
to solicit business.   This is a forum for the testing and exchange of ideas and
techniques.    It's also a forum to bear witness to others who are making the art
of trading work.   That's both inspiring and challenging.    So I'm wondering what
was the point of this post.  What are you trying to sell?     Me thinks he doth
protest too much....

Scheier

Mark Brown wrote:

> Hello metastock
>
> what  the cftc has done lately is crack down on people who make claims
> of  winning trades without making it clear what the risk is.  the cftc
> investigated  and  found  that  most ALL people who were trying to get
> clients  and or bragging about all the winning trades they were making
> in FACT did no even have a trading account of their own.
>
> this  is  the  way  they  manipulate  to  play on your greed that your
> missing  out  ect.   claims of a high percentage of winning trades was
> one of the tip off's of a possible scammer.  when in doubt - ask for a
> disclosure  document  and an independently audited track record.  also
> ask  when  was  the  last  time the advisor was audited by the nfa.  i
> would  also  suggest  that you check the basic listings at the nfa web
> site.
>
> be advised that anyone who is a nfa member and cta is prohibited from
> giving  trading  advise  without  fist  having  that  person  read and
> acknowledge a risk disclosure statement.
>
> For more detailed information about the risk associated with trading
> futures please contact the CFTC or the NFA or visit their web site
> -information listed below.
>
> Commodity Futures Trading Commission
> Three LaFayette Centre
> 1155 21st Street, N.W.
> Washington, D.C. 20581
> www.cftc.gov
>
> National Futures Association
> 200 W. Madison Street
> Suite 1600
> Chicago, Illinois 60606-3447
> 1.800.621.3570.
> www.nfa.futures.org
>
> Beware of Websites Selling Commodity Trading Systems that Guarantee High
> Profits with Minimal Risks
> http://www.cftc.gov/enf/00orders/posting4-tradingsystem.htm
>
> >From the CFTC website also see the public advisory:
>
> The following respondents and their websites were the subjects of the CFTC
> orders:
>
> Firm or Individual (click to view Order): Website Address:
> Oasis Publishing Corp. and Gordon J. White
>  http://www.pr-success.com/; http://www.risktaker.com/
> Mohammed Najib Taybi
>  http://www.yenman.com/
> John B. Reily
>  http://www.bonds2000.com/
> Paul B. Judd and Paul Judd International Corp.
>  www.pauljudd.com/
> Michael P. Calo d/b/a First Financial Trading
>  http://www.pr-success.com/
> Christopher F. Salter d/b/a Christopher Fernwick
>  www.learntoprofit/futures/index.htm
> RS of Houston
>  http://www.rsofhouston.com/
> Eron Demian Read d/b/a New Age Trading Techniques
> Global Futures Exchange & Trading Company
>  http://www.natt.net/
> Trendy Systems, LLC; Allan P. Harris; Joseph Prewitt
>  http://www.trendysystems.com/
> Ellery Coleman d/b/a Granite Investments
>  www.choicedaytrades.com
>
> The ten orders require the promoters to cease and desist from violating the
> provisions of the Commodity Exchange Act (CEA) and the CFTC's regulations which
> the Commission found they violated; to undertake, among other things, to make
> no unsubstantiated profit or risk claims; and to pay $10,000 civil monetary
> penalties, unless respondents have demonstrated to the Commission that they do
> not have the financial ability to pay such a penalty.
>
> --
>
> -Thanks, Mark
>
> ps  it  seems  most  crooks  in  this business always talk about their
> winners all the while conveniently NOT talking about their losers.