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<font size=3>how about adding a few more columns in the explorer.....and
when you open a chart...allow me to see the chart without closing all the
other windows... <br>
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At 04:03 PM 8/25/00 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>Lionel:<br>
<br>
Having been intimately involved in the development of software for
Equis<br>
since 1988, I want to set the record straight.&nbsp; Our motivations for
our<br>
overall software architecture have nothing to do with the issues you
bring<br>
up.&nbsp; We would never ignore &quot;easy&quot; solutions.&nbsp; Chances
are that there are<br>
numerous technological issues behind the scenes that prevent the
&quot;easy&quot;<br>
solution from being implemented.&nbsp; Things are not always as they seem
on the<br>
surface.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
The fact remains that virtually all capabilities of MetaStock have
been<br>
added at the request of users of our software.&nbsp; The fact that we are
unable<br>
to implement all requested technology for each and every individual
user<br>
does not mean that we do not listen or care about our customer
base.&nbsp; While<br>
many users (such as yourself and others on this list) have been
campaigning<br>
for a more open architecture design, we have just as many users (if
not<br>
more) who want a one-stop solution for all their needs.&nbsp; We will
create a<br>
more modular design and we will open up to more third party developers,
but<br>
we will not sacrifice more of our already battered quality to do 
it.<br>
<br>
We are working to implement many of the changes requested by yourself
and<br>
others on this list.&nbsp; I cannot guarantee that everything will be
done<br>
perfectly &quot;to order&quot; for each and every user.&nbsp; It remains
to be seen if I<br>
can lead a team of dedicated programmers to develop an application
that<br>
meets your needs as well as the individual needs of everyone who reads
this<br>
list.&nbsp; I can promise that I (and Equis) am passionate about trying
to<br>
produce software that EVERYONE finds useful and that is a good value for
the<br>
cost.&nbsp; In the meantime, I will not sit quietly on the sidelines if
anyone<br>
implies that Equis, my team or I do not listen or care about
customer<br>
issues.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ken Hunt<br>
Programming Manager<br>
Equis International<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Lionel Issen
[mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx]<br>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 11:50 AM<br>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
Subject: Re: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
<br>
<br>
In the early days of Metastock, there was a basic version and a Pro
version.<br>
I think that sales were thin with the basic version.<br>
<br>
Your idea of a modular version is great.&nbsp; It has been urged on Equis
for<br>
many years. There is also 3rd party software, like TAS, that would
answer<br>
many of the problems in Metastock, but Equis wont touch it. The
present<br>
solution of having to learn a new high level language is stupid. A
more<br>
powerful formula language would be a simpler and more elegant solution
for<br>
the user.<br>
<br>
Equis doesn't want to develop a modular version. Unlike Investors
FastTrack<br>
they do not want to encourage 3rd party add-on programs. Reuters wants
to<br>
use Metastock as a means to sell their data service.<br>
Lionel Issen<br>
lissen@xxxxxxxxx<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Al Taglavore &lt;altag@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
To: &lt;metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:23 PM<br>
Subject: Re: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Ken,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Why cannot we have a basic model of the software and then BUY
the<br>
&gt; additional modules from Equis that the user feels would enhance his
or her<br>
&gt; use of the program in the manner he/she uses/trades?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Rather than to have the premise, &quot;... we will never be able to
provide the<br>
&gt; perfect software for the entire spectrum of<br>
&gt; users, but we can try to produce software that the greatest number
of<br>
users<br>
&gt; will find useful in some way,&quot; why not<br>
&gt; build a model that will address the majority and then suppy
different<br>
&gt; segments of the market with the tools they need for their markets
and<br>
&gt; degrees of involvement.&nbsp; The person that trades a five thousand
dollar<br>
&gt; account surely does not need OR WOULD USE the tools or methodologies
of a<br>
&gt; person trading a half million dollar account.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Would this not then allow Equis more flexibility and contribute to a
more<br>
&gt; powerful program?&nbsp; No one can expect Equis to supply a Cadillac
at the<br>
&gt; price of a Saturn.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Al Taglavore<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; From: PD Manager &lt;pdmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; To: 'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt; &gt; Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:20 AM<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; I have stated before that we do not consider our users computer
or<br>
&gt; programming experts.&nbsp; Even with that, it is extremely difficult
to make<br>
&gt; software useful to a user base where their technical abilities have
such a<br>
&gt; wide range.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We literally get hundreds of suggestions every year from a set of
users<br>
who<br>
&gt; want to make the software &quot;easier to use&quot;.&nbsp; We get
just as many<br>
suggestions<br>
&gt; from a user base who want it to be &quot;more powerful and
flexible&quot;.&nbsp; The<br>
&gt; demands of these two groups are entirely different.&nbsp; The trick
is to try<br>
&gt; and<br>
&gt; produce a software package that can fill both needs.&nbsp; Obviously
we will<br>
&gt; never be able to provide the perfect software for the entire
spectrum of<br>
&gt; users, but we can try to produce software that the greatest number
of<br>
users<br>
&gt; will find useful in some way.&nbsp; This also means that it is next
to<br>
&gt; impossible<br>
&gt; to ultimately please everyone.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We are always trying to make our software easier to use.&nbsp; We
are also<br>
&gt; constantly trying to add features and capabilities that the
&quot;power user&quot;<br>
&gt; demands.&nbsp; At this point we are not willing to do one of these
things at<br>
the<br>
&gt; expense of the other.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ken Hunt<br>
&gt; Programming Manager<br>
&gt; Equis International<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Gerard Heuby
[mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxx]<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:44 AM<br>
&gt; To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ton,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I do not blame Equis guys, I agree they made a nice software but
right now<br>
&gt; this software can be used without problems only by experts like
you.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My goal is not to become an expert in operating systems nor
softwares, I<br>
&gt; just want to forget technical stuff to focus on markets.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; All people in this list have more knowledge in Windows than the
average<br>
&gt; Windows users.<br>
&gt; I am really far from an expert but I have installed several
operating<br>
&gt; systems and a lot of softwares, sure I didn't make all perfect but
all my<br>
&gt; other softwares including real-time systems are working 
nicely.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think next step for Equis would be to make MS usable by the
average<br>
&gt; people.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gerard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: A.J. Maas
&lt;mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
&gt; To: Metastock-List
&lt;mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: suggestions@xxxxxxxxx
&lt;mailto:suggestions@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:41 PM<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You guys @ Equis are under-estimating the quality of your own
products and<br>
&gt; that of your programmers<br>
&gt; and their programming skills + levels.<br>
&gt; You guys are also under-estimating the quality of the different
OS<br>
versions<br>
&gt; that are being used, eg<br>
&gt; stand-alone or in combination with your Equis products.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;From only servicing + supporting some 10,000+ PC's, can easely
come to<br>
&gt; this<br>
&gt; &quot;OS stand-alone or in<br>
&gt; combination with...&quot;-conclusion, eg from also having installed
your<br>
various<br>
&gt; Equis products on the<br>
&gt; various OS's in our company's internal program demonstrations ( to
only<br>
&gt; show<br>
&gt; off to collegue's your<br>
&gt; program as a demo of what it is all capable of ) and from my own
testing<br>
&gt; purposes.<br>
&gt; The best way to test this latter, is to install your products on
clean<br>
&gt; OS's,<br>
&gt; eg prior to any other 3td party<br>
&gt; software installs, and after that particular OS is fully
set-up,<br>
configured<br>
&gt; right and set right.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Then, following the above, a few more easely further drawn
conclusions can<br>
&gt; be made:<br>
&gt;
--------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
--<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----------------------------------------------<br>
&gt; - Users can blame themselves for buying and installing unproper PC's
and<br>
&gt; other 3td party accessories, software<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; + hardware products.<br>
&gt; - Users can also blame themselves for not providing their PC's
the<br>
&gt; environments in which the quality products<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; can live an uninterupted production life, eg in the lack
of having<br>
proper<br>
&gt; installations, configurations, settings,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; software + hardware.<br>
&gt; - Users can further blame themselves for their lack and/or
continiously<br>
&gt; lack<br>
&gt; in not providing their PC's the<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; always required software + hardware maintanance, badly
required for<br>
&gt; having<br>
&gt; decent productivity environments.<br>
&gt; - Users can also further blame themselves for being computing
illiturates,<br>
&gt; eg blindly installing whatever 3d party<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; softwares + hardwares they can get their hands on,
and/or for making<br>
&gt; unqualified configurations+setting changes.<br>
&gt; - Equis and other software and hardware Co.'s can blame theirselves
for<br>
not<br>
&gt; providing full Knowledge Base (Archive in)<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support, eg free scrollable tech articles, solutions,
patches and other<br>
&gt; downloads commonly available on the Internet,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; as can be seen + is done by many other &lt;very
succesfull&gt; Co.'s (eg<br>
&gt; MS,HP,IBM,FIC,Intel,Award, just to name a few).<br>
&gt; - Equis and other software and hardware Co.'s can also blame
theirselves<br>
&gt; for<br>
&gt; not providing their users with free<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; accessable educational articles on PC+their program
combined use, eg<br>
&gt; still<br>
&gt; lacking in the above Knowledge Base.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;From and for the above, there are no excuses to be made or
accepted.<br>
&gt; Like known from the 0=OFF and 1=ON switch positions, you either do
provide<br>
&gt; or don't provide..., eg point out to users<br>
&gt; what should and can be done and what should and cannot.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Besides then easely providing the solving answers of any issues
raised,<br>
&gt; this<br>
&gt; &quot;public relation&quot;-work will also be of<br>
&gt; a shocking possitively-thus-succesfull benificiary impuls to a
Co.'s<br>
&gt; sales-figures.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Like the Bartjens' Law states:&nbsp; 1 + 1 = 2<br>
&gt; (no other option : &quot;nothing else : nothing more or nothing
less&quot;).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A big thumb up for your input+that of your Support+Sales Dep.'s is
in its<br>
&gt; place, though.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; cc - suggestions@xxxxxxxxx
&lt;mailto:suggestions@xxxxxxxxx&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
{for<br>
providing<br>
&gt; the above Knowledge Base}<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; Ton Maas<br>
&gt; ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
&lt;mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
&gt; Dismiss the &quot;.nospam&quot; bit (including the dot) when
replying.<br>
&gt; Homepage&nbsp;
http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas<br>
&lt;http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: PD Manager<br>
&gt; To: 'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
&lt;mailto:'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: donderdag 24 augustus 2000 20:22<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gerard:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We have found that in some cases, virtually any Windows-based
program will<br>
&gt; exhibit problems with specific versions of Windows.&nbsp; Although
they may<br>
look<br>
&gt; similar (almost identical) on the screen, there are numerous cases
where<br>
&gt; the<br>
&gt; low-level programming issues between Windows versions are
vastly<br>
different.<br>
&gt; There are also cases where problems or quirks in the Windows system
itself<br>
&gt; will only show up in specific versions of MetaStock.&nbsp; When you
couple this<br>
&gt; with the numerous problems caused by quirks in various video or
printer<br>
&gt; drivers, it is no surprise that only specific combinations of
MetaStock<br>
and<br>
&gt; Windows can show problems.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ken Hunt<br>
&gt; Programming Manager<br>
&gt; Equis International<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Gerard Heuby
[mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxx]<br>
&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:39 AM<br>
&gt; To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ken,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Don't know if other people in this list can confirm but :<br>
&gt; I have moved from MS Pro 7.0 on NT4 to MS Pro 7.02 on W98SE to use
dual<br>
&gt; monitoring and I have more problems now although I have installed it
as<br>
new<br>
&gt; on a new clear system.<br>
&gt; My 7.0 was working quite well (out of some problems I did report in
this<br>
&gt; list).<br>
&gt; I will not report all the problems I have now with 7.02 , some are
not<br>
&gt; important and I can deal with.<br>
&gt; Others are painfull and I even had to re-install the whole
thing.<br>
&gt; Out of this, my opinion is using MS with W98 is the main problem ( I
do<br>
&gt; hope<br>
&gt; 7.02 is not worse than 7.0 ).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; (I will move to W2000 in the near future but I must deal with W98
for a<br>
&gt; while)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Can you confirm whether operating system choice can affect MS use
?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gerard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: PD Manager<br>
&gt; To: 'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
&lt;mailto:'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:49 PM<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: To PD Manager - Data Feed Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Testing was implied as being part of the debugging process.&nbsp;
The omission<br>
&gt; was in my email and not in our process, although many would like to
debate<br>
&gt; me on that I'm sure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Your not so subtle &quot;shot&quot; at us for recent quality
problems has been<br>
&gt; received, understood and well deserved.&nbsp; We are trying to
improve.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ken Hunt<br>
&gt; Programming Manager<br>
&gt; Equis International<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; </font></blockquote><br>

<font face="Courier New, Courier" size=3>Jim...<br>
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