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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Most of the requested funtionality would be met if
Equis included TAS by Flexsoft (or something equivalent), the web page
is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.flexsoft.com/";>http://www.flexsoft.com/</A>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lionel Issen<BR><A
href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx"; title=sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>Theo E.M.
Lockefeer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2000 9:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: === Looping
constructs.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Helo Friend Ton and other
friends........</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: A.J. Maas <<A
href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx";>anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: Metastock-List <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: February 24, 2000 12:08 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: === Looping
constructs.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> 1. Yes<BR>> <BR>> 2. Yes : give user
definable program control back to its program users<BR>> <BR>> 3. -see
previous FFT mailings below (incl. a reply by Equis Support on simular
question)<BR>> -MESA-John Ehlers: I have created a test
formula for the ITL, but cannot recall if it was<BR>>
also a succes(anyone get back to the List with your results or
findings).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Ton : i plotted it and it it
is invisible ?</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Regards Theo
L.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>> -website of Dennis
Meyers, Ph.D. :<BR>> <A
href="http://www.meyersanalytics.com/";>http://www.meyersanalytics.com/</A><BR>>
TASC April 1999 article (p.16) by Dennis Meyers,
Ph.D. :<BR>> " The
Discrete Fourier Transform Illustion "<BR>>
<A
href="http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9904.html";>http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9904.html</A><BR>>
TASC May 1999 article (p.26) by Dennis Meyers,
Ph.D. :<BR>> " The
Endpoint Fast Fourier Transform System
" <BR>>
<A
href="http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9905.html";>http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9905.html</A>
<BR>> TASC July 1999 Letters to S&C - 2x
replies by the Editor<BR>> <A
href="http://www.traders.com/Letters/Letters.html";>http://www.traders.com/Letters/Letters.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> test<BR>> INSTANTANEOUS TREND LINE - JOHN EHLERS (Mesa version for
MetaStock)<BR>> <BR>> DCPL:=Input("Dominant Cycle Periodical
Length",1,100,30);<BR>> DCPLP:=Input("Dominant Cycle PerLength
Period",1,1000,1);<BR>> DA:=MP();<BR>> SINDA:=Sin(DA)/DA;<BR>>
DCSIN:=FFT(SINDA,DCPL,DCPLP,MEAN,AMPLITUDE);<BR>>
ITLlong:=MP()+Mov(DCSIN,DCPL,S);<BR>> ITLlong <BR>> <BR>>
Regards,<BR>> Ton Maas<BR>> <A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>>
Homepage <A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A><BR>>
<BR>>
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----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Kolade, Adeniyi"<BR>> To:
<<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Sent: dinsdag 22 februari 2000 17:14<BR>> Subject: === Looping
constructs.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Hi all<BR>> > <BR>> >
Do you not think that Equis should <BR>> > <BR>> > 1 Include
looping constructs in the Metastock formula language<BR>> > <BR>>
> and<BR>> > <BR>> > 2 Make the tiny screen area for
programming in the Explorer, the System<BR>> > Tester and the Expert
Builder expandable to one page at least<BR>> > <BR>> >
Further can anyone tell me how to make the FFT function works in an<BR>>
> exploration. I've tried it out but it returns N/A<BR>> > <BR>>
> Thanks<BR>> > ade Kolade<BR>> <BR>>
================================================<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "A.J. Maas"<BR>> To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Cc: "Walter Lake"<BR>> Sent: woensdag 4 november 1998 0:42<BR>> Subject:
Re: Fast Fourier Transform and FFT<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > MESA + John
Ehlers(see futher below) <BR>> > <A
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> > are
now using the Instantanious Trendline wich uses the FFT and<BR>> > VAR
etc(Adaptive) for MAs.<BR>> > <BR>> > He has just recently
published it to his MESA Users Group.<BR>> > To join send an email with
the word "subscribe" as subject to<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
Subject: subscribe<BR>> > <BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > Ton
Maas<BR>> >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
> From John Ehlers:<BR>> > The new FuturesTruth is
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to announce the release of MESA98 for Windows 95/98/NT.<BR>> > This new
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filters, linear and<BR>> > nonlinear Kalman filters, multipole filters,
wavelets, and myriad of other<BR>> > cycles-related technology.<BR>>
> Some of the new features of the 32 bit-compiled MESA98
are:<BR>> > 1) An instantaneous trendline - obtained by completely
removing the<BR>> > dominant cycle.<BR>> > 2) Estimate the cycle
amplitude - filter attenuation of the cycle swing is<BR>> >
compensated.<BR>> > 3) Our proprietary Sinewave Indicator that lets you
anticipate cyclic turns.<BR>> > 4) Less latency - uses only .75 of a
cycle for the measurement.<BR>> > 5) More accurate - multipole filter
preprocessing.<BR>> > 6) Identification of Trend Modes and Cycle
Modes.<BR>> > 7) Correlate Trend Mode and Cycle Mode signals.<BR>>
> 8) Improved 10 bar prediction.<BR>> > 9) Intuitive data access to 8
data types - uses a setup wizard.<BR>> > 10) Output cycle measurements
to and ASCII file.<BR>> > 11) Larger Chart Screen<BR>> > 12) Large
portfolio capability.<BR>> ><BR>> > You can download a demo of the
MESA98 program from our website<BR>> > <A
href="http://www.mesasoftware.com";>www.mesasoftware.com</A>.<BR>> > The
cost of MESA98 is only $350. That's "out the door". No "ups",
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Van: John Ehlers <<A
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> Aan:
undisclosed reciepients<BR>> Onderwerp: Instantaneous Trendline<BR>>
Datum: zondag 25 oktober 1998 23:19<BR>> <BR>> To MESA Users
Group:<BR>> Here is a set of new indicators that you can
program yourselves. The<BR>> first of these indicators I call an
INSTANTANEOUS TRENDLINE. It works<BR>> because it completely removes
the dominant cycle from a smoothing average.<BR>> For the mathematically
inclined, the Fourier Transform of a rectangular<BR>> window (formed by a
simiple average) is a Sin(X)/X distribution. The<BR>> objective is to
place the first null of this distribution exactly at the<BR>> dominant
cycle. For the intuitively inclined, what we are doing is taking<BR>>
a simple average over the full dominant cycle period. In such an
average,<BR>> there are as many sample points above the midpoint as below
the midpoint<BR>> with the result that the sum of all these sample points
is zero.<BR>> OK, so all we have to do to get an Instantaneous
Trendline is to take a<BR>> simple average whose length is exactly the
period of the dominant cycle.<BR>> For those of you who have TradeStation
and MESA96, you just insert the dc<BR>> variable for the length of the
simple moving average. For those of you who<BR>> have MetaStock or
other toolbox packages, you just have to estimate the<BR>> length of the
dominant cycle and insert that estimate as your moving<BR>> average
period. Of course, this estimate is fixed across your entire<BR>>
screen, but the dominant cycle length can be varying. So watch out
for<BR>> that problem.<BR>> The next indicator is created
by taking a moving average over half the<BR>> period of a dominant
cycle. In this case, the amplitude of the dominant<BR>> cycle is
attenuated by exactly 2/PI. Our objective is to restore the full<BR>>
amplitude of the cyclic portion. So we take this latest moving
average,<BR>> subtract the "Instantaneous Trendline", multiple the
difference by PI/2<BR>> (1.57 approximately), and then add the
Instantaneous trendline back. Since<BR>> the lag of a moving average
is about half the moving average window length,<BR>> this modified half
dominant cycle moving average will still lag the realy<BR>> cyclic swing by
a quarter cycle.<BR>> Now, when we look at these two
moving averages, we can make two<BR>> assessments. First, we now
solve the age-old problem of what is the<BR>> trendline. We have
create an adaptive trendline. Secondly, we can see the<BR>> cyclic
swing relative to this trendline so that we can assess the amplitude<BR>>
of the cyclic movement. If this cyclic amplitude is not several times
that<BR>> average daily bar range, then getting an entry and exit for a
profitable<BR>> cyclic move becomes a crapshoot. In other words, the
signal to noise ratio<BR>> is so low that even though we have identified a
good cycle, it is not large<BR>> enough to trade profitably without relying
on an intraday fill.<BR>> Good Trading!!!<BR>>
John<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
<BR>> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:19:00 -0600, you wrote:<BR>> <BR>>
>Since the movements in the stockmarket are not truely periodic, is there
any<BR>> >evidence that linear or non-linear Fourier analysis can be
applied to the<BR>> >stockmarket?<BR>> <BR>> Imo, FA can answer
this question: If we do some appropriate kind of<BR>> windowing, we get as
a result the "amount of periodic content" vs<BR>> time, including
information about the accompanying frequencies. And if<BR>> periodic
content is high, FA can do some kind of meaningful<BR>>
extrapolation.<BR>> <BR>> mfg rudolf stricker<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Lionel and Gail Issen"<BR>>
To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Sent: dinsdag 3 november 1998 23:19<BR>> Subject: Re: Fast Fourier
Transform and FFT<BR>> <BR>> > CCollins:<BR>> > <BR>> >
The so called FFT in MS is a loser. The dominant cycle always comes up
as<BR>> > the length of the time period of the data. The so called
cycles bear little<BR>> > resemblance to anything useable. Excel
spreadsheets supports FFT.<BR>> > Parenthetically I have never come
across anyone who uses MS FFT for trading.<BR>> > I have met many people
who collectively use almost all the rest of the<BR>> > functionality of
MS,<BR>> > <BR>> > Since the movements in the stockmarket are not
truely periodic, is there any<BR>> > evidence that linear or non-linear
Fourier analysis can be applied to the<BR>> > stockmarket?<BR>> >
<BR>> > Lionel Issen<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----<BR>> > Van: C Collins<BR>> > Aan: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
Datum: dinsdag 3 november 1998 21:27<BR>> > Onderwerp: Re: Fast Fourier
Transform and FFT<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
> Having recently upgraded to 6.5 and being a multiyear
user of Metastock<BR>> > >2.5, 3, 5, etc, there is a part of this
function which I have never been<BR>> > >able to coax into
functioning. The INTERPRETED choice produces the findings<BR>> > >of
long waves from 89 to 500 . Nothing I have done will show the smaller<BR>>
> >waves. Also, if the choice of RAW data is made and other reasonable
choices<BR>> > >(such as 100, 1, mean, amplitude) are
made the result is a window with an<BR>> > >"Y-value" axis, but there
is no graph of any type. Has anyone succeeded in<BR>> > >using this
function. Also, has anyone ever had there hands on software<BR>> >
>called "Epoch Pro" developed by John Ehlers.<BR>> > ><BR>>
> >From: Manoj Abraham<BR>> > >> To: <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> > >>
Cc: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
>> Subject: RE: Fast Fourier Transform and FFT<BR>> > >>
Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 6:17 AM<BR>> > >> <BR>> >
>> Hi,<BR>> > >> If Metastock can interpret the Cycles and
display it I cant understand<BR>> > >> why it cannot output the
value to explorer or into a custom indicator.<BR>> > >> and what
is the use of FFT function built into metastock.<BR>> > >>
<BR>> > >> Manoj Abraham<BR>> > >> <BR>> >
>> <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> There is not a way to
create the interpreted FFT in The Explorer. The<BR>> > >>
Explorer uses individual formulas and Fast Fourier Transform
Interpreted<BR>> > >> is actually a long series of Raw
calculations, and each Raw calculation<BR>> > >> is analyzed to
determine 3 dominant cycles.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Raw
is only one calculation of the series. To manually calculate Raw<BR>>
> >> like interpreted would have to run many Raw calculations and
analyze the<BR>> > >> Raw number results in a database to
determine dominant values. This<BR>> > >> series of
calculations is not possible in an Exploration.<BR>> > >> <BR>>
> >> Equis Support<BR>> > >> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>> > >>
<A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>
> >> Please include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Equis and MetaStock and
MetaStock Professional are registered trademarks<BR>> > >> of
Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>
> >> Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are
trademarks of<BR>> > >> Equis International.<BR>> > >>
<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > >> > From: Manoj Abraham<BR>> >
>> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:11 AM<BR>> > >>
> To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
>> > Cc: <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> > >>
> Subject: Fast Fourier Transform and
FFT<BR>> > >> > <BR>> > >> > Hi
everybody,<BR>> > >> > <BR>> > >> > Does anybody
know how to get the interpreted FFT value in explorer.<BR>> > >>
> When the interpreted Fourier transform is loaded the function
says<BR>> > >> > Fourier
Transform(Close,-1,-1.0000,Detrend,Amplitude)<BR>> > >> > Put
the same as a new function It gives error messages.<BR>> >
>> > <BR>> > >> > Manoj Abraham<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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From: "Jim Greening" <jimginva@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Being a contrarian takes guts
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Guy,
I thought we had put in a blow-off bottom in the DJ-30 yesterday, but
the market came right back and took it out today. That's a very bearish
sign on the overall market to me. The good news is that the NASDAQ is still
going strong, but I have to wonder how long that can last in the face of a
sick overall market. I've managed to do very well with ARBA, CMRC, QLGC,
and SDLI but I'm running scared with tight stops right now. Here's hoping
your buy signal can turn the overall market around <G>.
I had my backup computer networked to my high speed cable modem
connection. Of course, that didn't work when my server went out. I'm going
to look into a separate cable modem connection for my back up.
JimG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: Being a contrarian takes guts
> Hi JimG
>
> I wondered where you went. Looks like we're too early again. Oh well,
the
> last short went almost 40 points against us before it turned around.
>
> Our buy today used our contrary that we modified a couple of years ago to
> take the bull market bias into consideration. Looks like we'll have to
> remove that bull market bias and return back to the old range. Anyway,
> we're a dollar early and a day too soon.
>
> Hope you did well while your main computer was in the shop. You could
have
> put a cheap NIC into your old PC and at least salvaged the high-speed
> connection. We have 3 computers here all on my DSL connection.
> Theoretically I should be able to come back up quickly. I'm going to
> install my file server this weekend and use Norton Ghost 2000 to build an
> image of my two disks, thereby giving me the ability to slip in a new
> computer and bring it up quickly.
>
> Good trading,
>
> Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Jim Greening
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:59 AM
> To: Metastock
> Subject: Re: Being a contrarian takes guts
>
> Guy,
> I'm glad to see that you are still here and posting your signals.
Best
> of luck and keepup the good work.
> I've been off the list for a few weeks while my computer was in the
> shop being fixed. The good news was that it was still under warranty and
> replacing the mother board didn't cost me anything. The bad news was that
> they had to ship it back to a repair facility and it took forever. I did
> crank up my old computer with a telephone modem (left the cable modem card
> in the new computer) to do my trading and partially keep up my web site,
but
> didn't try to download the Metastock list with my slow connection. I
think
> I'm back up to speed now and ready to participate again.
>
> JimG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Metastock" <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: Being a contrarian takes guts
>
>
> > List,
> >
> > Well I hate buying into this market, but we have to follow the system.
> >
> > We're reversing our short S&P positions this morning. We're long at
> 1351.25
> > to 1351.75. The one good thing about being a contrarian is that when we
> > reverse, we're usually opposite the market direction, so the fills are
> > pretty good. Of course, with all of the market weakness, we might have
> been
> > better off waiting for a while, but that would be second guessing our
> > system.
> >
> > Our short S&P @ 1417.25 closed out at 1351.75 (worst fill this morning)
> for
> > a profit of 65.75 points. For an e-mini contract, that's $3,275 less
> $25.00
> > commissions, fees, etc. (actually less than that) for a net profit of
> > $3,250. On an initial margin requirement of $4,688, that figures out to
> be
> > a 69% net return in 22 days. Not a bad annual return if it would only
> keep
> > going. :)
> >
> > Anyway, that's our current positions. We haven't gone long the tech
> stocks
> > as of the opening, but will look at adding those around 7AM.
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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