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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Has anyone read <FONT color=#000000 face=Arial 
size=2><EM>The New Technical Trader </EM></FONT>by Tushar Chande?&nbsp; If so, 
how did you recitify what seems to me to be a circular reference in the 
following formula given on pg. 180 VIDYA<FONT size=1>d<FONT size=2> = 
A*Close+(1-A)*VIDYA<FONT size=1>d-1<FONT size=2>? How can one calculate a VIDYA 
based on the previous day's VIDYA?&nbsp; It seems to me that eventually one 
would run out of previous days.&nbsp; Any enlightenment on this one would be 
helpful.&nbsp; The following is my attempt at rectifying this problem, but it 
doesn't feel right </FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2>A:=0.05*Abs(CMO(C,9));</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2>VIDYA:= (0.1*Fml(&quot;Volatility index&quot;))*C + 
(1-0.1*Fml(&quot;volatility 
index&quot;))*Ref(C,-1);</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2><BR>Vidyab:=a*CLOSE+(1-a)*Ref(vidya,-1);</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2>VIDYA here is a VIDYA Moving Average.&nbsp; The formulation for the 
volatility index is as follows: 
Stdev(C,21)/Mov(Stdev(C,21),5,S)</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2>Now I've seen this in Tradestation code in TASC (2000 Bonus Issue) with 
the same apparent circular reference.&nbsp; Again, thanks in advance for 
suggestions.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=1><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><FONT 
size=2>Jeff</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Trading for Tigers
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:50:29 -0500
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I know someone in this group has read <FONT color=#000000 
face=Arial size=2><EM>Trading for Tigers.&nbsp; </EM>Is the book worth the 
price?&nbsp; Is anyone who has the book disgusted with it and willing to give it 
up for a reasonable price?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Good 
Trading</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial 
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Subject: Re: The New Technical Trader (VIDYA)
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The site <A 
href="http://www.nt-tech.com.au/guppy/gup128.htm";>http://www.nt-tech.com.au/guppy/gup128.htm</A>&nbsp;has 
tons of MetaStock formulas, many of them taken from this mailing list.&nbsp; I 
didn't see VIDYA referenced in the index, but happened to run across it while 
looking for something else, on page 10.&nbsp; Here is the formula&nbsp;posted on 
that site:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Vidya:<BR>K:=Stdev(P,5)/Mov(Stdev(P,5),20,S);<BR>SC:=Input("SC",.1,.9,.1);<BR>Vidya:=SC*K*P+(1-SC*K)*Ref(P,-1);<BR>Vidya; 
<BR>{the sc input is more responsive if you use a higher 
number}<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; - Barry<BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just found another version of Vidya further down on 
the same page:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BIG><BIG><STRONG>My version of Tushar Chande's 
Vidya using the P 
variable</STRONG></BIG></BIG><BR><BR>Vidya{P}<BR>Periods:=Input("length of 
MA",5,100,20);<BR>K:=Stdev(P,5)/Mov(Stdev(P,5),20,S);<BR>A:=(2/(Periods+1));<BR>Vidya:=A*K*(P)+(1-A*K)*Ref(P,-1);<BR>Vidya;<BR><BR>Tar(SZ)an 
Long<BR>C-(((462*Mov(C,34,E))-(420*Mov(C,13,E))+(490*(Mov(Mov(C,13,E)-Mov(C,34,E),89,E))))/42)<BR><BR>Tar(SZ)an 
Short<BR>(C-(((325*Mov(C,26,E))-(297*Mov(C,12,E))+(351*Mov(Mov(C,13,E)-Mov(C,26,E),9,E))))/28)*2<BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Barry:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for the website.&nbsp; It appears to be very 
useful.&nbsp; I even found a couple of things I've posted.&nbsp; I was just 
fiddling around with some stuff and looking for feed back.&nbsp; I'm going to 
have to be more careful about what I post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Good Trading</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Barry Marx &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:bmarx@xxxxxxxxx";>bmarx@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Friday, January 21, 2000 7:04 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: The New 
    Technical Trader (VIDYA)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The site <A 
    href="http://www.nt-tech.com.au/guppy/gup128.htm";>http://www.nt-tech.com.au/guppy/gup128.htm</A>&nbsp;has 
    tons of MetaStock formulas, many of them taken from this mailing list.&nbsp; 
    I didn't see VIDYA referenced in the index, but happened to run across it 
    while looking for something else, on page 10.&nbsp; Here is the 
    formula&nbsp;posted on that site:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>Vidya:<BR>K:=Stdev(P,5)/Mov(Stdev(P,5),20,S);<BR>SC:=Input(&quot;SC&quot;,.1,.9,.1);<BR>Vidya:=SC*K*P+(1-SC*K)*Ref(P,-1);<BR>Vidya; 
    <BR>{the sc input is more responsive if you use a higher 
    number}<BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; - 
Barry<BR></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "j seed" <jseed_10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Trading for Tigers
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Jeff,
Not long ago I posed the following to this group:
Traditionally, we are taught that a trend involves higher highs and higher 
lows for an uptrend. In "Trading for Tigers", Walter Downs states that for 
an uptrend to be in effect todays high must equal the highest high of "n" 
trading sessions and todays close must be greater than yesterdays close.
    Questions:
    1.Has anyone else read the book?
    2.Does anyone have any thoughts on this uptrend definition?
    3.Has anyone coded Walters' indicators into Metastock?

While I wouldn't suggest that anyone run out and purchase this book at $139, 
I do believe the book may have some merit to the right trader. If you're 
into pattern recognition then maybe this book would help. As far as the 
merits for the traditional trader I believe that until we've had some time 
to digest and manipulate the formula we really won't know. Is the book earth 
shattering...let's just say that at $139 it will definitely knock your socks 
off! Would I give mine up for a song...no, I'm not ready to give it up yet!

J.

>From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <Metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Trading for Tigers
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:50:29 -0500
>
>I know someone in this group has read Trading for Tigers.  Is the book 
>worth the price?  Is anyone who has the book disgusted with it and willing 
>to give it up for a reasonable price?
>
>Good Trading
>Jeff

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