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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:21 AM
To: metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: metastock-digest V1 #793
metastock-digest Thursday, December 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 793
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:20:51 -0800
From: "Liu,Marshall,GLENDALE,Finance" <marshall.liu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: - VIRUS ALERT!
Thanks Guy. I'll look into them.
Thanks,
Marshall M. Liu
Senior Systems Analyst
(818) 549 - 6269
marshall.liu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Tann [SMTP:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:22 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: - VIRUS ALERT!
>
> Marshall
>
> I don't use McAfee AV even though it came preinstalled on a couple of our
> computers. The reason I dropped it at that time was because I either
> couldn't figure out how to update it weekly. Seems at that time, they
> wanted me to buy another copy. I use Symantec's Norton AV as part of
> SystemWorks. I don't think there is a problem with whatever AV program
> you
> use as long as you keep the database updated. I update mine at least once
> a
> week and more often if I hear of a new attack.
>
> I also use ConSeal PC Firewall which has worked out well. I tried The
> Cleaner and am now going to try TDS-2. I also use Zone Alarm which
> prevents
> anything on my computer from contacting the Internet without my
> permission.
> A lot of people use BlackIce with ConSeal and seem to be happy. I have
> also
> used IA99 on my wife's computer but have standardized on ConSeal PC
> Firewall
> for my primary firewall. This way I just have to maintain one ruleset.
>
> I still get periodic attacks, so I think they're worth the investment.
>
> You can also check out your system's vulnerability to attack by using one
> of
> the test sites available on the Internet.
>
> https://secure1.e-softinc.com/
> http://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
> http://www.hackerwhacker.com/
> http://www.secure-me.net/r3/dsl
>
> There is additional site to look at as well:
> http://www.commodon.com/threat/frame.htm
>
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Liu,Marshall,GLENDALE,Finance
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 9:12 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: - VIRUS ALERT!
>
> Guy & MS List:
>
> The PC I purchased included the McAfee's anti-virus program and I've
> activated the program to scan my internet traffic.
> Having said that, can anyone shed light on how effective McAfee's
> anti-virus
> products are when compared to Conseal & BlackIce ?
>
> Is it an overkill to install either or both of those products ?
> Are there system issues with using all three simultaneously ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Thanks,
> Marshall M. Liu
> Senior Systems Analyst
> (818) 549 - 6269
> marshall.liu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Guy Tann [SMTP:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:53 PM
> > To: Metastock
> > Subject: FW: - VIRUS ALERT!
> >
> > Don't know if this was posted since I haven't received anything from the
> > list today. In case it was posted, I apoligize. It looks like a
> > different
> > one than the one from a day or two ago.
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-SysWorks-Techinfo-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > Symantec
> > News Bulletins
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:09 PM
> > To: SYSWORKS-TECHINFO-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: - VIRUS ALERT!
> >
> > The following is a copy of Norton AntiVirus Alert we sent
> > out earlier today December 3, 1999. It contains urgent virus
> > information that could be of interest to you.
> >
> > =============================================================
> > ** NORTON ANTIVIRUS EMERGENCY NEWS BULLETIN - VIRUS ALERT! **
> > =============================================================
> >
> > December 3, 1999
> > _____________________________
> >
> > WARNING! New Y2K virus spreads through email!
> >
> > W32.Mypics.Worm is a new, destructive Y2K worm virus. It comes into
> > your system as an email attachment disguised as a picture. The worm
> > propagates automatically on Windows 9x and Windows NT platforms and
> > has a destructive payload that triggers in the year 2000. It also
> > changes the Home page in Internet Explorer to a site containing adult
> > content.
> >
> > *** THIS VIRUS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS!
> >
> > Do NOT open an email attachment named Pics4You.exe. ***
> >
> > To ensure that your system is protected against this new virus, you
> > must update your detection definitions.
> >
> > *** Monitor the site
> >
> > http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/vURL.cgi/nav23
> >
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> > details on this destructive virus. ***
> >
> > W32/MYPICS.WORM Y2K VIRUS DESCRIPTION:
> >
> > * A new, destructive Y2K virus has been discovered that disguises
> > itself as a Y2K problem. W32/Mypics.worm is a computer worm that is
> > received as an email attachment disguised as a picture.
> >
> > * Once it infects the host computer it attempts to send itself
> > using Microsoft Outlook to up to 50 people in the users' Microsoft
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> >
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> > CHARACTERISTICS OF INFECTION:
> >
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> > body of the message reads, "Here's some pictures for you!" The e-
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> > approximately 34,304 bytes in size.
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:12:27 -0500
From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: B&B Fear
Jose:
I don't have an explorer set up for this system. One reason is because I
only follow a limited number of stocks with it and I can recognize the
signals with only a quick glance at the chart. The other is that because
the time period for each stock may be different, it would be cumbersome to
run explorations for every period.
I notice that you are including volume in your exploration. How has that
worked for you?
Jeff
- -----Original Message-----
From: José Carlos Duarte Areia <jcdareia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: B&B Fear
>Jeff I'm using your Bull and Bear fear Level with a relative success. Do
you
>have a explorer formula for that system ?
>
>I'm triyng this, let me know if its correct.
>
>Exploration
>
>name :Vol > Avg 50e and Price > Bull Bear
>Notes: Volume>Mav 50E and price closing above Bull and Bear fear Level
>Column A: Volume
>Column B: Mov(VOLUME,50,E)
>Column C: Close
>Column D: Fml("TASC Bull Fear Level")
>
>Filter: colA>colB AND Cross(colC ,colD)
>
>Options
>
>Most Recent Date
>Daily
>Use Filter
>
>Thanks for your help
>[],s JCarlos
>
>>From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: B&B Fear
>>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 05:55:46 -0500
>>
>>I'm back from my trip. Hopefully, I will not have to go again until
>>Christmas week. If I go back before, it is bad news. It is tough to
>>monitor things when away from your home base. Fortunately, I did have
>>online access where I was and I can calculate my sell points by hand for
my
>>positions. Actually, nothing changed system wise while I was away and all
>>open positions should've been maintained. BBY is behaving the way I was
>>afraid it might after the huge post Thanksgiving spike. It's moves like
>>that which scare me with this system, and I'm glad I was already fully
>>invested so I didn't have to play that one.
>>
>>If I missed responding to anyone who's asked me for information, please
ask
>>again. Its really been hectic and I can assure you that if I didn't
>>respond, it was only an over sight and nothing personal. The table of
>>results to date is below.
>>
>>Good Trading
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>> My Positions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Stock
>> Entry Date
>> Price
>> Exit Date
>> Price
>> % Gain/Loss
>>
>>
>> AOL
>> 09/27/99
>> 49.75
>>
>> 78
>> 56.78
>>
>>
>> BBY
>> 10/08/99
>> 65.94
>> 10/15/99
>> 61.5
>> -6.73
>>
>>
>> AMD
>> 10/26/99
>> 19.3125
>>
>> 31
>> 60.52
>>
>>
>> DELL
>> 11/26/99
>> 43.38
>>
>> 45.31
>> 4.45
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> B&B Fear Positions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Current
>>
>> Entry Date
>> Stock
>> Price
>> Exit Date
>> Price
>> % Gain/Loss
>> Sell Point
>>
>> 09/07/99
>> AEOS
>> 46.44
>> 10/18/99
>> 43.12
>> -7.15
>>
>>
>> 09/27/99
>> AOL
>> 49.75
>>
>> 78
>> 56.78
>> 67.28
>>
>> 09/28/99
>> CMGI
>> 98.00
>>
>> 160.1
>> 63.37
>> 123.8
>>
>> 09/30/99
>> CSCO
>> 67.38
>> 10/18/99
>> 66.94
>> -0.65
>>
>>
>> 10/08/99
>> BBY
>> 65.94
>> 10/15/99
>> 61.5
>> -6.73
>>
>>
>> 10/26/99
>> AMD
>> 19.3125
>>
>> 31
>> 60.52
>> 24.25
>>
>> 10/29/99
>> CSCO
>> 72.50
>>
>> 95.56
>> 31.81
>> 79.56
>>
>> 11/03/99
>> MU
>> 76.5
>> 11/17/99
>> 68.38
>> -10.61
>>
>>
>> 11/04/99
>> DELL
>> 42.13
>> 11/18/99
>> 40
>> -5.06
>>
>>
>> 11/08/99
>> MSPG
>> 28.13
>>
>> 32.31
>> 14.86
>> 29.38
>>
>> 11/15/99
>> GPS
>> 37.63
>>
>> 42.13
>> 11.96
>> 36.34
>>
>> 11/26/99
>> DELL
>> 43.38
>>
>> 45.31
>> 4.45
>> 42.06
>>
>> 11/30/99
>> BBY
>> 65.88
>>
>> 58
>> -11.96
>> 55.94
>>
>>
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:43:53 +1300
From: "P & J Riddick" <ridix@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: three line break coding
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Does anyone out there have a MS6.52 coded formula (that they are willing =
to share!) that gives=20
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Tbox=20
2) the number of boxes since the plot changed colour?
Can the TLB be incorporated into an exploration? Or optimized?
Thanks, PR
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:36:50 EST
From: Arsk0jn@xxxxxxx
Subject: Printing Charts with version 6.52 - ATTN: Bill
Bill,
It's been over a week since I wrote you the reply below and would appreciate
a response to my questions and where Equis is on fixing this problem.
Thanks,
Joe Nemecek
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE (11/29/99):
Thanks, Bill, for your reply but I think you are missing the point most of
us
are making. It is:
1. There was no problem printing graphs with Metastock 6.5.
2. There now is a problem printing graphs with Metastock 6.52.
3. I think you will agree that Metastock should provide a version of 6.5
that
corrects the Y2K problem without causing problems in other areas.
Bill, that's all we're asking for: A version of Metastock that corrects the
Y2K problem and not negatively affect anything else. We shouldn't have to
buy
ver. 7.0 to get this.
Don't you agree?
Sincerely,
Joe Nemecek
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:09:54 -0500
From: "Dan" <w4tq@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: TC2000 BOP, Money stream, TSV
Hi Laurent,
Were you ever able to find Metastock code for these indicators? I use
TC2000, but I would like to have these indicators in Metastock as well.
Thanks,
Dan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Laurent GITTLER <lgittler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Metastock (E-mail) <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:25 AM
Subject: TC2000 BOP, Money stream, TSV
>Hello list,
>
>Has anybody a Metastock formula for TC2000 Money Stream, by BOP (Balance of
>Power) and TSV (Time segmented Volume) indicators.
>
>There was a post early in the year about TSV, that worden brother's father
>was designing an indicator counting ticks in the day.
>
>The formula given to the Metastock list by Michel Guibert (thanks Michel)
>for TSV was :
>
>Sum(
> If( C, >, Ref(C,-1), +V*C-Ref(C,-1),
> If( C, <, Ref(C,-1), -V*C-Ref(C,-1), 0) ),18)
>with a moving average of 9, I think I am not very far ?????
>
>Do anybody has formulas for BOP and MoneyStream, or an enhanced formula for
TSV.
>
>I would in fact like to write an explorer partially based on those
formulas.
>
>Thanks
>
>Laurent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:24:51 -0500
From: "Walter Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: chart series
Very interesting code and .xls example.
http://www.j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/tip83.htm
"A Class Module to Manipulate a Chart SERIES
Excel's object model has a serious flaw: There is no direct way to to use
VBA to determine the ranges used in a chart. This tip contains a useful
class module that can simplify the task of manipulating chart's using VBA.
..." etc.
Best regards
Walter
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 12:10:02 -0600
From: Heidi Stubner <stubner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Printing Charts with version 6.52 - ATTN: Bill
Joe, I think there are many of us who would like to know how Equis is
progressing on this problem. Hopefully we will hear something very soon.
At 11:36 AM 12/07/1999 EST, you wrote:
>Bill,
>It's been over a week since I wrote you the reply below and would
appreciate
>a response to my questions and where Equis is on fixing this problem.
>Thanks,
>Joe Nemecek
>
>PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE (11/29/99):
>Thanks, Bill, for your reply but I think you are missing the point most of
us
>are making. It is:
>1. There was no problem printing graphs with Metastock 6.5.
>2. There now is a problem printing graphs with Metastock 6.52.
>3. I think you will agree that Metastock should provide a version of 6.5
that
>corrects the Y2K problem without causing problems in other areas.
>
>Bill, that's all we're asking for: A version of Metastock that corrects the
>Y2K problem and not negatively affect anything else. We shouldn't have to
buy
>ver. 7.0 to get this.
>Don't you agree?
>Sincerely,
>Joe Nemecek
>
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 11:28:09 -0700
From: Jeff Walker <jwalker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Investor sentiment
here is the latest sentiment data...
- ----------------------------------------------
LOWRISK.COM
INVESTOR SENTIMENT SURVEY
12 / 7 / 99
brought to you by InvestorMap.com
the biggest directory of investing sites on the net.
>> http://www.investormap.com <<
- ------------------------------------------------
Below are the results of our weekly "Guess the Dow" sentiment
survey. The survey was taken from 11/29 through 12/5 on the
Lowrisk.com web site.
Number of participants: 560
30 day outlook:
43% bullish, 44% previous week
37% bearish, 36% previous week
20% neutral, 21% previous week
(percentages may not sum to 100 due to rounding)
Median guess for the Dow closing value on Friday, 12/10: 10,934 (it
was 11,050 last week). More complete sentiment data is available at:
<http://www.lowrisk.com/sentiment.htm>. Historical sentiment data is
available at: <http://lowrisk.com/sentiment-hist.htm>.
Investors grew slightly less bullish last week. Bullish sentiment
dropped 1% to end at 43%, while bearish sentiment rose 1% from 36%
to 37%. The neutral camp dropped from 21% to 20%. The market turned
in a strong performance last week, with the Dow rallying 297 points
for the week. So the drop in bullishness is very puzzling and would
seem to have bullish implications for the market, at least for the
short term.
Please stop by and put in your opinion on the market...the more
participation we get, the better our sentiment data. Please stop by
to take part in this week's survey at:
<http://www.lowrisk.com/guess.htm>.
best regards,
Jeff Walker
Disclaimer:
The financial markets are risky. Investing is risky. The
foregoing has been prepared solely for informational
purposes and is not a solicitation, or an offer to buy or
sell any security. Opinions are based on historical
research and data believed reliable, but there is no
guarantee that future results will be profitable.
jwalker@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:02:52 -0500
From: Philip <pschmi02@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gaining losers for systems
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YO!
> Alexander wrote:"Here is the most important consideration why the
> winning system would never
> be sold. The goal of the market is to defeat all predictions (or
> market
> would cease to exist). So every knowledge discovered about the market
> either has to be kept "secret" (and used on very small scale and in
> very
> conning manner as to not attract an attention of other market
> participants,
> remember old times pool manipulators?) or when known it is "negated"
> by the
> market."
>
> Couple of interesting thoughts here, Steve. This is Colin Alexander
> you're quoting? I agree with Richard Dennis. He once was quoted that
> he could publish his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago Tribune and
> absolutely nobody would pay any attention to it. I've tried to give
> away my most guarded secrets and people ignore the offer. I've also
> traded for many clients, using time tested mechanical systems, when
> after accruing 6 or 7 winning trades in a row, the system incurs a
> small loss ... only to hear them comment: "Gee, I guess the "system"
> isn't working any more". I'm always amazed and amused that 90% of all
> traders are looking for the "holy grail" and yet, less than 5% (wildly
> high estimate) of those have the discipline or patience to perpetrate
> any mechanical plan. Argue the point if you must; this is my simple,
> subjective view, formulated after "way too many years" observing
> self-destruction by the Amerikan trading public.
>
> Hmm. Sounds like people are giving you grief about the recent
> cybercast drawdowns . . . or are you launching a preemptive strike
> against potential detractors, based on 25 years of experience with
> "the public"?
>
> As the magenta resistance line indicates on your feeders chart, the
> action on 12/6 was encouraging for your shorts. At least, I would
> think twice about being long after a failure like that.
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> Back in top shape in the meantime? "Up to snuff," as they say?
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> http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Alexander
wrote:</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>"Here
is the most important consideration why the winning system would
never</font></font>
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to defeat all predictions (or market</font></font>
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knowledge
discovered about the market</font></font>
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used on very small scale and in very</font></font>
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<p><b><i><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Couple of interesting thoughts
here, Steve. This is Colin Alexander you're
quoting?</font></font></i></b> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
agree with Richard Dennis. He once was quoted that he could publish
his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago Tribune and absolutely nobody would pay
any attention to it. I've tried to give away my most guarded secrets
and people ignore the offer. I've also traded for many clients, using
time tested mechanical systems, when after accruing 6 or 7 winning trades
in a row, the system incurs a small loss ... only to hear them comment:
"Gee, I guess the "system" isn't working any more".</font></font> <font
face="Arial"><font size=-1>I'm
always amazed and amused that 90% of all traders are looking for the "holy
grail" and yet, less than 5% (wildly high estimate) of those have the
discipline
or patience to perpetrate any mechanical plan. Argue the point if
you must; this is my simple, subjective view, formulated after "way too
many years" observing self-destruction by the Amerikan trading
public.</font></font><b><i><font face="Arial"><font
size=-1></font></font></i></b>
<p><b><i><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Hmm. Sounds like people
are giving you grief about the recent cybercast drawdowns . . . or are
you launching a preemptive strike against potential detractors, based on
25 years of experience with "the public"?</font></font></i></b><b><i><font
face="Arial"><font size=-1></font></font></i></b>
<p><b><i><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>As the magenta resistance line
indicates on your feeders chart, the action on 12/6 was encouraging for
your shorts. At least, I would think twice about being long after
a failure like that.</font></font></i></b><b><i><font face="Arial"><font
size=-1></font></font></i></b>
<p><b><i><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Back in top shape in the
meantime?
"Up to snuff," as they say?</font></font></i></b><b><i><font
face="Arial"><font size=-1></font></font></i></b>
<p><b><i><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Philip</font></font></i></b>
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<br> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Steve Karnish</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cedar Creek Trading</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:46:00 -0500
From: "Walter Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: colour picker
For those of you that want a VBA coded floating XL colour picker like the
one in Metastock. Check this out.
http://www.j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/tip49.htm
It has 56 colours plus it gives their RGB colour codes for handy coding
reference.
Best regards
Walter
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:18:15 -0500
From: "Walter Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: money management
This is a monster download from Futures Mag.
http://www.futuresmag.com/industry/downloads/downloads.html
"3x1=More than you think" December 1999 Money management spreadsheet This
spreadsheet manually implements the money management analysis discussed in
the article. Excel 97 spreadsheet "
Best regards
Walter
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:56:51 +0100
From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Support = required
> The statement does not say the MetaStock Professional 7.0 and
> MetaStock for Windows 7.0 already support outside GUI functionality.
Hope that I do not "again(???) mis-interpret you" when you write that MSK
does not and will not (eg refuses to) support internal GUI functionality
support.
1. You can hardly qualify PowerBASIC to be a helpfull addittion to the GUI,
a helping hand within the GUI that 99% of your users are looking for,
and
which additionality is way overdue (and note again "that was promised
to be added" already way back in 1995) and what be of a real advantage
to your main stream of users(unlike PB, that will only be of an
advantage
to some, if any at all...........).
2. PowerBASIC ill-logic poorly developped "programming language" just
turns anyone right off. Even off attempting to learn its heavy
under-developped
"systamatics" for starters, eg for anyone who is willing to spend his
valuable
time in yet again "learning yet another 'foreign' language" (where your
formula
language can also be considdered to be a "foreign" language).
3. Since your own program is also -in an ancient fashion- dreadfully
poorly
equiped with any GUI supporting tools, eg none are present and somehow
making your program alien (compared to advancees programs), therefore
help
will always be required from outside (eg by applying third parties to)
your program,
that will always have to done under 'messy conditions' (in a -user
unfriendly- way).
4. On the side, as well, let PB be a first step to lending a (very costly)
helping hand,
eg only in to extending a smaller part of the program only (formula
handling) then
this sure is nowhere THE major step that is desperatly required, eg
a major (GUI) functionality overhaul would be well in its place here.
5. An automating tool is required, and for that job the PB extension is not
the Tool.
Neither the MSX (for it being "ONLY" PB compatible).
I believe your sale figures will speak for themselves as to who is right
here, eg
once the 7.0 version is on the market.
Since introduction of the new 7.0 -Pro version I cannot figure out what is
realy
a driving force for anyone to upgrade from 6.52. It is an upgrade, in that
some
"by many not wanted/useless to the majority of users" features have been
added.
Perhaps I should spell it out liturarly for you what your users (and
potentialy new users)
are/will be looking for (and what companies like Microsoft understand far
much better,
eg look at the new Win2k):
Addding of
1. User definable Objects and related
2. User definable (window) Controls and related
3. User definable Menu's and related
4. User definable actions (to be choosen from these Menu's menu's)
5. User definable automating with and for the #'s 1 to 4
6. Company policy break in letting third parties enter in on these # 1 to 5
a. for having (and creation of) language definable versions
b. for having free programs like VBscript do what any user requires
from his/hers program's repitative tasks and therefore let other
programs
enter on this "currently un-accesable tasks & routines".
Since these are part of the (any programs) Operating System, they were also
freely updated and added to the OS. Now, how about you?
- -a locked up program and
- -no intensions on program improvement(s) (requested/required by users
on the above and already for years in a row present functionalities)
So for now, must end and will see you perhaps in version 8.0 (somewhere
due in year 2002+, or v9.0) if you still have me around as a customer.
Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
cc MetaStock List
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Equis Support <support@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 'A.J. Maas' <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: zondag 5 december 1999 1:26
Subject: RE: Support = required
The statement in the message is in reference to MSX DLL. What the statement
says is that MetaStock Professional 7.0 already contains MSX DLL support as
will MetaStock for Windows end of day. The statement does not say the
MetaStock Professional 7.0 and MetaStock for Windows 7.0 already support
outside GUI functionality.
Equis Support
http://www.equis.com/
http://www.equis.com/customer/support/
Please include previous email answers and questions in your response.
Please ask only one question per email. If you have to ask several
questions please send each question as a separate email.
Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock Professional are registered trademarks of
Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert Advisor,
OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks of Equis
International.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A.J. Maas [SMTP:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 5:04 PM
> To: Equis Support
> Cc: Metastock-List
> Subject: Re: Support = required
>
> Hello Equis Support,
>
> My 1st question's "The qoute to be completed" as you refer to it, stems
> from my original reply mail
> (printed right here below) to Cheryl's original "PowerBASIC"-mail that she
> had send to the MetaStock-List
> and which reply-mail I forgot to also send on SEPERATLY to her at Equis
> Support as well. Anayway, that
> mail is also printed -more further down- below.
> The issue here at stake is Cheryl's statement at the bottom of her mail,
> right below the "new MSX's
> non-accessability to the GUI/DLL"-section, eg about the functionalities
> that MSX cannot and the newer
> MetaStock PRO 7.0 and EOD 7.0-versions supposeably CAN perform. We, your
> buyers+users, are here
> sort of left in the dark as to the clearity of the statement:
>
> > Things that you cannot do with an MSX DLL include:
> > * GUI functions including plotting and user dialogs.
> > * Access the standard MetaStock built-in functions from within your DLL
>
> > This capability is already in MetaStock Professional 7.0 and will be in
> the
> > upcoming MetaStock End-Of-Day 7.0.
>
> So far, your users/buyers unawareness of this "capability to access the
> GUI or my DLL already being included or
> to be included in the newer programs" requires a more detailed explanation
> to the extend of how this can
> be seen in relation to what your users already had (read: I do not know of
> it and so do many other users not know about it),
> and since this will be a new feature:
> -than how is this been added, eg previous program versions
> weren't equiped with these features.
> Sometime back in 1995, in your Spring 1995 No.2 (or 3) Monitor-NewsLetter
> you made already a public announcement
> to that extend, "that Visual Basic as a programming language is being
> added", but up till now, so far, have yet to see
> the "prosperous deeds being put into action".
>
> Therefore again please 'end' the "unfinished quote":
> "For accessing the above functionalities, wich are most intresting to
> users in/for their automation
> +programming efforts on program's 'daily usage' functionalities and of
> which most of these are
> held in dll, ocx or com files and for which most are also commonly shipped
> with any other
> applications/programs and which access is therefore also usualy provided
> for free by most
> software-makers, eg via their program's being (VB) Visual
> Basic-compatable, you can...............
> ..........................................................................
> .........................................................".
>
> If this answering is to pre-mature, impossible and front running on later
> this year to be announced news that you will
> finally add the missing "straight-forward programming access to your
> program" feature, than I am afraid "that's to late", eg
> overhere it is the talk of the town (but will be a major dessalution if
> adding it gets posponed again, eg and a tremoundous
> slap in the face for the advancees having had bought program on
> "programming features" recommendations).
>
> I think it also calls for you to explain the working structure and its
> future of the earlier announced (see Cheryl's mail below)
> but on pure DOS based PowerBASIC program that had a virtual Windows
> compatabillity (Win32s) added (DOSbox), but
> which very old DOS and Win3.11 techniques will be limited + cut down in
> use and cease to exist in the future Windows OS
> versions (2k+, 64-bit).
> (Microsoft has announced that in future programs it will not allow these
> virtual machines to operate anymore, eg access
> to DOS (Win3.1) will not be available anymore either (perhaps not on start
> up)).
>
> Thank you kindly for forwarding the other 2 questions on to your design
> dep., of which only the latter 3td-?URO
> is "cosmetic and of a less pranging importance" urgence, but surely know
> that you+your designers can see the
> importance in adding the 2nd question's (also cosmetic(?))
> Switches&Parameters features to the program.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> <http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: A.J. Maas < anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>>
> To: Metastock-List < metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: donderdag 4 november 1999 1:33
> Subject: Re: Increasing the MetaStock(R) Formula Language with MetaStock 7
>
> > Dear Cheryl + EquisSupp,
> >
> > > Things that you cannot do with an MSX DLL include:
> > > * GUI functions including plotting and user dialogs.
> > > * Access the standard MetaStock built-in functions from within your
> DLL.
> >
> > For accessing the above functionalities, wich are most intresting to
> users in/for
> > their automation +programming efforts on program's 'daily usage'
> functionalities
> > and of which most of these are held in dll, ocx or com files and for
> which most
> > are also commonly shipped with any other applications/programs and which
> > access is therefore also usualy provided for free by most
> software-makers, eg
> > via their program's (VB) Visual Basic-compatabilitiness, you
> can.......................
> >
> ..........................................................................
> ......................................... .
> >
> > The above was missing in your excellent explanation briefing (at the
> finishing
> > end) on the new in MS v7 included MSDK's "MSX-API"-functionality
> extension
> > feature.
> >
> > Hope this time around you can finish it, by providing us the "missing
> dotted"
> > line(s) at the end!.
> >
> > Adding the PowerBASIC compatabliness is surely an attractive programming
> tool,
> > but is much for the very advanced users that are looking for "Accounting
> Programming"
> > ways within the MS program, and not for the majority of users who would
> like programming
> > and automating the average Accounting- and most of the Technical
> functionalities of
> > the program, eg accessable through the parts mentioned at the top (and
> mentioned
> > here above in the "Things you cannot do
> with.................."-section).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ton Maas
> > ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> > note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> > <http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas>
> >
> > ------snip------
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Equis Support < support@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx>>
> To: < metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: woensdag 3 november 1999 0:13
> Subject: Increasing the MetaStock(R) Formula Language with MetaStock 7
>
> > I've noticed several emails lately discussing MetaStock's Formula
> Language
> > capabilities. I would like to take this time to introduce you to a new
> > feature added in MetaStock 7. The new MetaStock External Function (MSX)
> > Application Programming Interface (API), available in the MetaStock
> > Developer's Kit, allows software developers to dynamically add
> externally
> > defined functions to the MetaStock Formula Language, in MetaStock
> version
> > 7.0 and later.
> >
> > When MetaStock initializes, it scans a pre-defined folder, looking for
> any
> > DLLs that correctly implement the MSX API. When an MSX DLL is found,
> the
> > functions that it implements are automatically added to the MetaStock
> > Formula Language.
> > These new functions can be used to create Custom Indicators,
> Explorations,
> > System Tests and Expert Advisors using MetaStock's formula tools.
> > The MSX API supports any programming language that meets the following
> > criteria:
> > * exports DLL functions by name
> > * supports the stdcall stack frame convention
> > * creates 32-bit DLLs for Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows NT
> > version 4.0 or greater
> > This type of DLL is commonly called a Win32 DLL.
> >
> > Note: Microsoft Visual Basic does not have the capability to produce a
> Win32
> > DLL. Therefore, MSX DLLs cannot be written in Microsoft Visual Basic.
> A
> > good alternative for VB programmers is PowerBASIC, an inexpensive
> compiled
> > Basic that is syntax-compatible with VB and can produce Win32 DLLs.
> > MSX DLL Capabilities
> > The functions that can be implemented in MSX DLLs are similar in
> behavior to
> > the Standard built-in MetaStock functions. In other words, MSX
> Functions
> > can be written to perform calculations based on any available price data
> or
> > results of other functions. All MSX DLL functions return a data array.
> > This exactly parallels the behavior of the MetaStock built-in functions.
> > The returned data array can be plotted by Custom Indicators or used in
> any
> > way that a standard built-in function can be used.
> > MSX DLLs can perform calculations of virtually unlimited complexity.
> You
> > have the full power of conventional programming languages like C or
> Pascal
> > with all of their logic, data manipulation and rich flow-control
> > capabilities.
> > Things that you can do with an MSX DLL include:
> > * Implement functions not provided with MetaStock.
> > * Perform complex calculations on price data.
> > * Provide multiple functions in a single MSX DLL.
> > * Access stored MetaStock price data using MSFL (included in the
> > MetaStock Developers Kit - see the MSFL documentation for details).
> > * Create functions that can be used by Custom Indicators, System
> > Tests, Explorations, and Experts.
> > * Distribute your compiled MSX DLL to other users.
> >
> > Things that you cannot do with an MSX DLL include:
> > * GUI functions including plotting and user dialogs.
> > * Access the standard MetaStock built-in functions from within your
> > DLL.
> >
> > This capability is already in MetaStock Professional 7.0 and will be in
> the
> > upcoming MetaStock End-Of-Day 7.0. The MetaStock Developer's Kit is
> expected
> > to be available in late November. For the latest details periodically
> check
> > <http://www.equis.com/partners/developers/>
> >
> > Cheryl Elton
> > Product Development
> > Equis International, Inc
> > <http://www.equis.com>
> >
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Equis Support <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'A.J. Maas' <mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: maandag 29 november 1999 18:53
> Subject: RE: Support = required
>
> Mr. Maas,
>
> For the first question, we're not sure where you received the quote
> that you are trying to have completed. That quote has nothing to do with
> the MSX since it does not interface to VB or VBA.
>
> The second and third are design issues. They have been forwarded to
> our design department and will be left in their hands.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Equis Support
> <http://www.equis.com/>
> <http://www.equis.com/customer/support/>
>
> Please include previous email answers and questions in your
> response.
>
> Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock Professional are registered
> trademarks
> of Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert
> Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks
> of
> Equis International.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A.J. Maas [mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 4:15 PM
> To: Equis Support
> Cc: Metastock-List
> Subject: Support = required
>
>
> The following are 3 very urgent questions!!
> Can you please reply ?
>
> 1. Question that was recenty raised in my 19991104-mail to
> you, Equis Support, with subject:
> "Re: Increasing the MetaStock(R) Formula Language with
> MetaStock 7", which
> up till now, unfortunately, is still left unanswered (by
> your Support Dep.).
>
> > Things that you cannot do with an MSX DLL include:
> > * GUI functions including plotting and user dialogs.
> > * Access the standard MetaStock built-in functions from
> within your DLL.
>
> "For accessing the above functionalities, wich are most
> intresting to users in/for their automation
> +programming efforts on program's 'daily usage'
> functionalities and of which most of these are
> held in dll, ocx or com files and for which most are also
> commonly shipped with any other
> applications/programs and which access is therefore also
> usualy provided for free by most
> software-makers, eg via their program's being (VB) Visual
> Basic-compatable, you can...............
>
> ..........................................................................
> .........................................................".
>
> The above was missing in your excellent explanation briefing
> (at the finishing end) on the new
> in MSK v7 included MSDK's "MSX-API"-functionality extension
> feature.
>
> Hope this time around you can finish it, by providing us the
> "missing dotted" line(s) at the above end!.
>
> 2. Why do the MetaStock and Downloader programs on 'Run' do
> not have any
> command line Switches/Parameters ?
>
> Many programs have switches/parameters added to their
> command lines, that can be used
> by user to run/open the program with/on certain conditions.
>
> For example adding an /E switch/parameter to the standard
> MSK command line could then
> enable user to open up with the MSK's Explorer :
> C:\Equis\Mswin\mswin.exe /E
> or an /S to open up with the MSK's SystemTest :
>
> C:\Equis\Mswin\mswin.exe /S
> or for the DLR's Convert Tool for the daily file updates :
> C:\Equis\Dlwin\dlwin.exe /C
>
> I usualy work with Layouts so I won't go further in to the
> fact that Charts+Layouts can be
> opened directly from the (Run) command line :
> C:\Equis\Mswin\Charts\MyChart.mwc
> or the equivelant :
> "C:\Equis\Mswin\mswin.exe
> C:\Equis\Mswin\Charts\MyChart.mwc"
> will both open the Chart named MyChart in the Charts folder.
>
> But advanced programs do also have advanced command-line
> procedures (switches and parameters)
> to directly open a program with a by user desired Tool (a
> sub program).
> These via parameters and switches (common in most PC
> programs) advanced commands procedures
> are up till now not been added/available. They are not
> available to user :
> neither for the stand-alone MSK program and not for the
> covered DLR program.
>
> 3. Tho slightly cosmetic of nature, is this question: are
> MSK/DLR also EURO (?) Compatible ?
>
> Refering to your previous mailings/billboard announcements,
> in which you stated that
> the MetaStock/Downloader programs are ?URO ready, and with
> the excellent new version
> of the AutoIt program being capable to add(send)
> the ASCII-codes(characters) to a security's Name field
> ----------
> "like when using using the ALT key and the numeric keypad
> (e.g. ALT+65 = 'A' or ALT+0128 = '?' or ALT+0165 = ' ')"
> ----------
> and have noticed that once one of the ASCII (via
> ALT+Numblock) characters is required, the Downloader
> will reflect and produce the sign correctly, but that
> the MSK/DLR-programs will not ever produce
> the ? sign, let alone correctly. All that can be seen is a
> single fat Bold vertical bar. As you can see above,
> here on my PC and for in this at the moment used Outlook
> Express mail-program, the ? sign does come
> up very nicely. It will also work very well and come up
> nicely in all of the other ? sign-compatible programs.
>
> From me here typing these charcters into this mail, you can
> notice that my keyboard's numeric
> keypad-functionality and the input + procedure (see "ALT+"
> above) are here working perfectly, eg
> upose to the fat 'bar' produced in MSK's or DLR's Name
> fields (see inserted gif below).
> However, thus not within the Downloader v7.0 and not within
> the Metastock v6.52 programs.
>
> To test for the EURO (?) sign Compatibility - using the
> "ALT+0128" procedure:
> -in MetaStock: create a New Custom Indicator and
> send above code to its Name field.
> -in the Downloader: create a New Security and send
> above code to its Name field.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying
> and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> <http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> AutoIt v2.21 released
>
> AutoIt v2.21 has been released at
> <http://www.hidden.demon.co.uk/AutoIt/index.html>.
> The recent history file is listed below.
>
> ------------snip-------------
>
> AutoIt History
>
> 20/11/99 - v2.21
>
> * Can now Send decimal ASCII codes, like when using using the ALT key
> and the
> numeric keypad (e.g. ALT+65 = 'A'). Very useful for sending characters
> that don't
> usually work (e.g. '~' on an Italian keyboard).
>
> 18/11/99 - v2.2
>
> * Can now Run programs as either hidden, maximized or minimized (great
> for avoiding black
> screens when executing DOS commands)
> * RunWait will put a program's return code in %ERRORLEVEL%
> * The WinWait group of functions can be set to timeout after a period
> of time
> (%ERRORLEVEL% can be checked to see if the function timed out or not)
> * WinShow command added (previously, there was no way to "undo" a
> WinHide!!!!)
>
> -------------snip-------------
>
> AutoIt Homepage: <http://www.hidden.demon.co.uk/AutoIt/index.html>
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:40:42 -0500
From: "Walter Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: money management
Thanks for your email.
I don't my copy of the magazine until it appears on the new stand, but
Stridsman doesn't usually fool around with his workbooks. My goodness ... he
actually put lots of titles and charts into his workbook. Amazing
transformation since he left the magazine and went out on his own.
Anyway ... Walkenbach has a nice little mapping utility that allows you to
quickly see a "colour coded map" of which cells have data, titles etc. and
which cells have code. Very useful in working with a large and comprehensive
workbook such as this. It also makes coding into VBA much easier when
automating the workbook.
This is really a nice Christmas present and a great start to next years
programming.
Best regards
Walter
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 22:57:23 -0500
From: Vitaly Larichev <vitaly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: CNET's advices on problems of on-line trading ...
The following page on CNET offers advices on how to handle some problems of
on-line
trading
http://home.cnet.com/internet/0-3805-7-1437139.html?dd.cn.txt.1206.sw.03
You may discover you don't know everything as I did <g>.
This is about:
The Tragedy of the Crashed Broker
It happens all too often: you want to trade, but your broker's site
crashes. Here's how
to make sure you
get through.
The Case of the Bogus Buy
You thought you canceled your order, but you ended up with the stock
anyway. We'll tell
you why, and
how to ax your order for good next time.
The Mystery of the Surprise Price
You bought at $40, but when you got the confirmation it said you bought
at $60. You can
avoid shifting
prices in the future--read on to find out how.
The Curse of Unresponsive Customer Support
You think your broker made a mistake, but no one from customer service
will respond to
your emails.
Don't worry: there's still recourse.
Cheers, Vitaly
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:49:15 -0500
From: "Walter Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: money management - Stridsman
Thanks for your email
Those are TextBoxes on the side of his charts. They were probably entered
manually.
If you want to use VBA to create them, here's some code you can adapt. Just
stack it up for all the TextBoxes that you want.
Alignment will have to be played with. Linkage to import info from a cell in
the data sheets may be more intersting to code.
Best regards
Walter
===============================
Sub AddTextBox()
ActiveChart.Shapes.AddShape(msoShapeRectangle, 537.7, 93.65, 137.3,
41.08).Select
Selection.Characters.Text = "This is a TextBox"
Selection.AutoScaleFont = False
With Selection.Characters(Start:=1, Length:=18).Font
.Name = "Arial"
.FontStyle = "Regular"
.Size = 10
End With
Selection.ShapeRange.Fill.ForeColor.SchemeColor = 47
Selection.ShapeRange.Fill.Visible = msoTrue
Selection.ShapeRange.Fill.Solid
ActiveWorkbook.Save
End Sub
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:53:44 EDT
From: "José Carlos Duarte Areia" <jcdareia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: B&B Fear
Jeff I didn't used it yet, I just tryed to made the formulae and as always I
try to use volume in every research I do, I put the volume moving average
together, because that's the "fuel of the move" I believe.
Regards JCarlos
>From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: B&B Fear
>Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:12:27 -0500
>
>Jose:
>
>I don't have an explorer set up for this system. One reason is because I
>only follow a limited number of stocks with it and I can recognize the
>signals with only a quick glance at the chart. The other is that because
>the time period for each stock may be different, it would be cumbersome to
>run explorations for every period.
>
>I notice that you are including volume in your exploration. How has that
>worked for you?
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: José Carlos Duarte Areia <jcdareia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:44 PM
>Subject: Re: B&B Fear
>
>
> >Jeff I'm using your Bull and Bear fear Level with a relative success. Do
>you
> >have a explorer formula for that system ?
> >
> >I'm triyng this, let me know if its correct.
> >
> >Exploration
> >
> >name :Vol > Avg 50e and Price > Bull Bear
> >Notes: Volume>Mav 50E and price closing above Bull and Bear fear Level
> >Column A: Volume
> >Column B: Mov(VOLUME,50,E)
> >Column C: Close
> >Column D: Fml("TASC Bull Fear Level")
> >
> >Filter: colA>colB AND Cross(colC ,colD)
> >
> >Options
> >
> >Most Recent Date
> >Daily
> >Use Filter
> >
> >Thanks for your help
> >[],s JCarlos
> >
> >>From: "Jeff" <jcob3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: B&B Fear
> >>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 05:55:46 -0500
> >>
> >>I'm back from my trip. Hopefully, I will not have to go again until
> >>Christmas week. If I go back before, it is bad news. It is tough to
> >>monitor things when away from your home base. Fortunately, I did have
> >>online access where I was and I can calculate my sell points by hand for
>my
> >>positions. Actually, nothing changed system wise while I was away and
>all
> >>open positions should've been maintained. BBY is behaving the way I was
> >>afraid it might after the huge post Thanksgiving spike. It's moves like
> >>that which scare me with this system, and I'm glad I was already fully
> >>invested so I didn't have to play that one.
> >>
> >>If I missed responding to anyone who's asked me for information, please
>ask
> >>again. Its really been hectic and I can assure you that if I didn't
> >>respond, it was only an over sight and nothing personal. The table of
> >>results to date is below.
> >>
> >>Good Trading
> >>Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> My Positions
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Stock
> >> Entry Date
> >> Price
> >> Exit Date
> >> Price
> >> % Gain/Loss
> >>
> >>
> >> AOL
> >> 09/27/99
> >> 49.75
> >>
> >> 78
> >> 56.78
> >>
> >>
> >> BBY
> >> 10/08/99
> >> 65.94
> >> 10/15/99
> >> 61.5
> >> -6.73
> >>
> >>
> >> AMD
> >> 10/26/99
> >> 19.3125
> >>
> >> 31
> >> 60.52
> >>
> >>
> >> DELL
> >> 11/26/99
> >> 43.38
> >>
> >> 45.31
> >> 4.45
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B&B Fear Positions
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Current
> >>
> >> Entry Date
> >> Stock
> >> Price
> >> Exit Date
> >> Price
> >> % Gain/Loss
> >> Sell Point
> >>
> >> 09/07/99
> >> AEOS
> >> 46.44
> >> 10/18/99
> >> 43.12
> >> -7.15
> >>
> >>
> >> 09/27/99
> >> AOL
> >> 49.75
> >>
> >> 78
> >> 56.78
> >> 67.28
> >>
> >> 09/28/99
> >> CMGI
> >> 98.00
> >>
> >> 160.1
> >> 63.37
> >> 123.8
> >>
> >> 09/30/99
> >> CSCO
> >> 67.38
> >> 10/18/99
> >> 66.94
> >> -0.65
> >>
> >>
> >> 10/08/99
> >> BBY
> >> 65.94
> >> 10/15/99
> >> 61.5
> >> -6.73
> >>
> >>
> >> 10/26/99
> >> AMD
> >> 19.3125
> >>
> >> 31
> >> 60.52
> >> 24.25
> >>
> >> 10/29/99
> >> CSCO
> >> 72.50
> >>
> >> 95.56
> >> 31.81
> >> 79.56
> >>
> >> 11/03/99
> >> MU
> >> 76.5
> >> 11/17/99
> >> 68.38
> >> -10.61
> >>
> >>
> >> 11/04/99
> >> DELL
> >> 42.13
> >> 11/18/99
> >> 40
> >> -5.06
> >>
> >>
> >> 11/08/99
> >> MSPG
> >> 28.13
> >>
> >> 32.31
> >> 14.86
> >> 29.38
> >>
> >> 11/15/99
> >> GPS
> >> 37.63
> >>
> >> 42.13
> >> 11.96
> >> 36.34
> >>
> >> 11/26/99
> >> DELL
> >> 43.38
> >>
> >> 45.31
> >> 4.45
> >> 42.06
> >>
> >> 11/30/99
> >> BBY
> >> 65.88
> >>
> >> 58
> >> -11.96
> >> 55.94
> >>
> >>
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:20:17 +0800
From: Ryan Yeo <yeoryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: winning systems for losers
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Hi Steve,
Just curious if you would give me a simple insight to what u mean by
your method of trading that people ignores. I trade interest rates
contracts.
Steve Karnish wrote:
> List, Alexander wrote:"Here is the most important consideration why
> the winning system would never
> be sold. The goal of the market is to defeat all predictions (or
> market
> would cease to exist). So every knowledge discovered about the market
> either has to be kept "secret" (and used on very small scale and in
> very
> conning manner as to not attract an attention of other market
> participants,
> remember old times pool manipulators?) or when known it is "negated"
> by the
> market." I agree with Richard Dennis. He once was quoted that he
> could publish his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago Tribune and absolutely
> nobody would pay any attention to it. I've tried to give away my most
> guarded secrets and people ignore the offer. I've also traded for
> many clients, using time tested mechanical systems, when after
> accruing 6 or 7 winning trades in a row, the system incurs a small
> loss ... only to hear them comment: "Gee, I guess the "system" isn't
> working any more". I'm always amazed and amused that 90% of all
> traders are looking for the "holy grail" and yet, less than 5% (wildly
> high estimate) of those have the discipline or patience to perpetrate
> any mechanical plan. Argue the point if you must; this is my simple,
> subjective view, formulated after "way too many years" observing
> self-destruction by the Amerikan trading public.Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/
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Hi Steve,
<BR> Just curious if you would give me a simple insight
to what u mean by your method of trading that people ignores. I trade
interest
rates contracts.
<P>Steve Karnish wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>List,</FONT></FONT> <FONT
FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Alexander
wrote:</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>"Here is the most
important consideration why the winning system would never</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>be sold. The goal of the market is
to defeat all predictions (or market</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>would cease to exist). So every
knowledge
discovered about the market</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>either has to be kept "secret" (and
used on very small scale and in very</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>conning manner as to not attract an
attention of other market participants,</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>remember old times pool manipulators?)
or when known it is "negated" by the</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>market."</FONT></FONT> <FONT
FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
agree with Richard Dennis. He once was quoted that he could publish
his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago Tribune and absolutely nobody would pay
any attention to it. I've tried to give away my most guarded secrets
and people ignore the offer. I've also traded for many clients, using
time tested mechanical systems, when after accruing 6 or 7 winning trades
in a row, the system incurs a small loss ... only to hear them comment:
"Gee, I guess the "system" isn't working any more".</FONT></FONT> <FONT
FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>I'm
always amazed and amused that 90% of all traders are looking for the "holy
grail" and yet, less than 5% (wildly high estimate) of those have the
discipline
or patience to perpetrate any mechanical plan. Argue the point if
you must; this is my simple, subjective view, formulated after "way too
many years" observing self-destruction by the Amerikan trading
public.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Steve
Karnish</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Cedar Creek Trading</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><A
HREF="http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/";>http://www.abbracadabra.com/cy
bercast/</A></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:51:18 -0800
From: "Glen Wallace" <gcwallace@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Gann Swings and Intraday Trading
I recall someone asking a while ago if anyone had written the MetaStock code
for the Oct99 TASC article "Gann Swings and Intraday Trading."
I was poking around Daryl Guppy's site today and came across Adam Hefner's
HiLo, Swing and Trend indicators and expert. You can find the code at
http://www.nt-tech.com.au/guppy/gup96.htm
Looks like a lot of thought went into it. Adam deserves yet another pat on
the back.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:57:44 -0500
From: Philip <pschmi02@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Metastock crashes
Too many crashes here!
Before I got my new computer, I was inclined to think that my computer was
responsible for the
crashes with MS 6.52. I attributed this to insufficient RAM -- or maybe I
had inadvertently
screwed something up somewhere.
Now, with a new computer (three weeks old) with plenty of RAM, Metastock is
still crashing.
In this case, I really haven't had time to screw things up <g>. So what's
going on? Could
you please have a look and venture an opinion?
While closing Metastock (several layouts were open) and clicking "Yes, save
changes to
layouts":
Invalid page fault in module MSWIN.EXE at 0167:0049c330
While opening layouts:
Fatal Exception Error at 0167:BFFAADOB
Running Metastock (layout was open, that's all I remember)):
MSWIN caused an invalid page fault in module MSWIN.EXE at 0167:0051ce0a
Best regards,
Philip
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:17:53 -0500
From: wander@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Support = required
Hi Ton,
"A.J. Maas" wrote:
> 2. PowerBASIC ill-logic poorly developped "programming language" just
> turns anyone right off. Even off attempting to learn its heavy
under-developped
> "systamatics" for starters, eg for anyone who is willing to spend his
valuable
> time in yet again "learning yet another 'foreign' language" (where
your formula
> language can also be considdered to be a "foreign" language).
This is mainly intended for third party software developers and you are
right, most users who
want more language power will not take the time and extra expense to learn
C, Pascal, PB, or
whatever. The diehards might, but diehards are few and far between.
Hopefully this does not
mean that Equis has done all it is going to do with Metastock Language? Say
it ain't so! But
all is not lost as I imagine there will be kind diehard souls who will
_freely_ share their
Add-ons, just like is done with Metastock Language code now.
> Since introduction of the new 7.0 -Pro version I cannot figure out what is
realy
> a driving force for anyone to upgrade from 6.52. It is an upgrade, in that
some
> "by many not wanted/useless to the majority of users" features have been
added.
It's true that the language is not more powerful and the System Tester
wasn't touched, but I
believe there ARE good reasons to upgrade to 7.0. Even though I experienced
a troublesome
upgrade installation, and am currently awaiting a patch (or 7.01?) to fix
some bugs, I am very
happy with the new features in this upgrade. Most problems I experienced
were basically minor,
although at the time drove me INSANE. I do still have a price bar
compression problem that
was not present in 6.52, however two traders that I spoke with do not seem
to have this
problem. Anyway, that is not a problem for me since I do not use compressed
data to create
price bars, however I DO want to start using compressed data to take best
advantage of
DataOnDemand and Refresh. Even with these glitches I chose NOT to go back to
6.52 (even though
it was tempting early on) simply because A) my trading isn't impeded and B)
I LIKE the new
features too much to go back. Of course the main thing I wanted to see
improved was the
System Tester, but unfortunately it wasn't touched. Last year(?) Equis
posted to this list a
request for suggestions on how to improve it, but alas......
Still, in my opinion it is definitely worth the $50 upgrade price for the
EOD version, however
your mileage may vary. Even though I think $200 is a bit pricey for
upgrading MSPro, I would
do it again. I'm not suggesting everybody should upgrade, just stating that
I think it's
worth it.
Some new features that I like:
DataOnDemand and Refresh- MSPro only.......now I don't have to bug my
friends for data if I go
down, and more importantly they don't have to bug ME. ;-)
Explorations on exploration results- (Ok, maybe *I* don't need this or use
it but it seemed to
be THE most requested feature, so Equis definitely is implementing some user
suggestions.)
Multi-plot custom indicators- (What can I say except I'm happy.)
Custom Toolbar- Dockable and lets you create a shortcut to any
chart, layout, browser, Excel program, etc..
This is a wonderful thing.
Labeled Fib tool- now displays the percentage next to the Retracement.
Change Security- now works on all charts in a layout. (Haven't tried this
yet so can't
comment.)
For most, I would imagine the driving force to upgrade would be the
explorations on
exploration results feature, but who knows.
Regards,
Ken
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:42:57 -0800
From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: winning systems for losers
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Ryan wrote:
"give me a simple insight to what u mean by your method of trading"
Ryan,
I closed out three long positions this morning in the Dec contract:
http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/cgi-bin/comchrt.asp?chart=3Dbonds
Since Jan 1, '99, I've closed out 26 "long bond" positions. My =
mechanical approach is 20-5-1 this year. I use momentum oscillators =
and break all the trading rules (I average losers, don't use stops, =
etc.). =20
I have posted the guts of my systematic approach for all to trade and =
examine and have shared formulae during the past two years on this and =
many other forums. It has become easier to maintain a website than =
answer numerous emails everyday. =20
Human nature tells me that most folks believe my information is worth =
what its priced at: $zero. I promise to attach a big fat price to my =
mechanical approaches and charting service in the year 2000, so that =
people will think they are getting credible products. It seems to me =
that the HIGHER I price the information, the more CREDIBILITY will be =
associated with the product. =20
Enjoy the free information while you can ... it's just a 2+ year plot =
to "entice and entrap" mindless traders from around the world and bring =
them under my control, so I can eventually dominate the world. =20
Steve Karnish
Cedar Creek Trading
http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ryan Yeo=20
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: winning systems for losers
Hi Steve,=20
Just curious if you would give me a simple insight to what u mean =
by your method of trading that people ignores. I trade interest rates =
contracts.=20
Steve Karnish wrote:=20
List, Alexander wrote:"Here is the most important consideration =
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participants,=20
remember old times pool manipulators?) or when known it is "negated" =
by the=20
market." I agree with Richard Dennis. He once was quoted that he =
could publish his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago Tribune and absolutely =
nobody would pay any attention to it. I've tried to give away my most =
guarded secrets and people ignore the offer. I've also traded for many =
clients, using time tested mechanical systems, when after accruing 6 or =
7 winning trades in a row, the system incurs a small loss ... only to =
hear them comment: "Gee, I guess the "system" isn't working any more". =
I'm always amazed and amused that 90% of all traders are looking for the =
"holy grail" and yet, less than 5% (wildly high estimate) of those have =
the discipline or patience to perpetrate any mechanical plan. Argue the =
point if you must; this is my simple, subjective view, formulated after =
"way too many years" observing self-destruction by the Amerikan trading =
public.Steve Karnish=20
Cedar Creek Trading=20
http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/cgi-bin/comchrt.asp?chart=3D=
bonds">http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/cgi-bin/comchrt.asp?chart=3D=
bonds</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since Jan 1, '99, I've closed out =
26 "long=20
bond" positions. My mechanical approach is 20-5-1 this=20
year. I use momentum oscillators and break all the trading rules =
(I=20
average losers, don't use stops, etc.). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have posted the guts of my systematic =
approach=20
for all to trade and examine and have shared formulae during the past =
two years=20
on this and many other forums. It has become easier to maintain a =
website=20
than answer numerous emails everyday. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Human nature tells me that most folks =
believe my=20
information is worth what its priced at: $zero. I promise to =
attach a big=20
fat price to my mechanical approaches and charting service in the year =
2000, so=20
that people will think they are getting credible products. It =
seems to me=20
that the HIGHER I price the information, the more CREDIBILITY =
will be=20
associated with the product. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Enjoy the free information while you =
can ... =20
it's just a 2+ year plot to "entice and entrap" mindless traders from =
around the=20
world and bring them under my control, so I can eventually dominate the=20
world. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek =
Trading<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/";>http://www.abbracadabra.c=
om/cybercast/</A></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:yeoryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; =
title=3Dyeoryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Ryan=20
Yeo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 08, =
1999 7:20=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: winning systems =
for=20
losers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve, <BR> Just curious if you =
would give=20
me a simple insight to what u mean by your method of trading that =
people=20
ignores. I trade interest rates contracts.=20
<P>Steve Karnish wrote:=20
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<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>List,</FONT></FONT> <FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Alexander wrote:</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>"Here is the most important =
consideration why the=20
winning system would never</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D-1>be sold. The goal of the market is to defeat all =
predictions (or=20
market</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>would =
cease to=20
exist). So every knowledge discovered about the market</FONT></FONT> =
<BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>either has to be kept =
"secret" (and used=20
on very small scale and in very</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D-1>conning manner as to not attract an attention of other =
market=20
participants,</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>remember old=20
times pool manipulators?) or when known it is "negated" by =
the</FONT></FONT>=20
<BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>market."</FONT></FONT> <FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>I agree with Richard Dennis. He =
once was=20
quoted that he could publish his "Turtle" rules in the Chicago =
Tribune and=20
absolutely nobody would pay any attention to it. I've tried to =
give=20
away my most guarded secrets and people ignore the offer. I've =
also=20
traded for many clients, using time tested mechanical systems, when =
after=20
accruing 6 or 7 winning trades in a row, the system incurs a small =
loss ...=20
only to hear them comment: "Gee, I guess the "system" isn't working =
any=20
more".</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>I'm =
always amazed=20
and amused that 90% of all traders are looking for the "holy grail" =
and yet,=20
less than 5% (wildly high estimate) of those have the discipline or =
patience=20
to perpetrate any mechanical plan. Argue the point if you =
must; this=20
is my simple, subjective view, formulated after "way too many years" =
observing self-destruction by the Amerikan trading=20
public.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Steve=20
Karnish</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Cedar =
Creek=20
Trading</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/";>http://www.abbracadabra.c=
om/cybercast/</A></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> =20
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