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<DIV>Benzie,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The&nbsp;first number is&nbsp;13 for the RSI, the 8 is&nbsp;for the HHV and 
LLV value and</DIV>
<DIV>5 is the smoothing.&nbsp;Below is the code:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM>name: STOCH-RSI 13,8,5 (80%-20%)</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Mov((RSI(13)-LLV(RSI(13),8))/(HHV(RSI(13),8)-</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(LLV(RSI(13)+.00001,8))),5,E)*100</EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Later,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adam</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: &lt;<A 
href="mailto:bspark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bspark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: &lt;<A 
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 9:03 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: Re: S&amp;P 500 chart....</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>&gt; Guy <BR>&gt; Have had a look at your SP500 
chart and was wondering at what <BR>&gt; formula you are using for your StochRSI 
(3 paramater?)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have been using a variation that I found on 
the list (1 paramater) <BR>&gt; where I am smoothing the SR (with an 5 day 
MA)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; p1:= 21;<BR>&gt; s1:= 5;<BR>&gt; l1:=20;<BR>&gt; 
l2:=80;<BR>&gt; SR:=(((RSI(p1)-LLV(RSI(p1),p1))/((HHV(RSI(p1),p1))-<BR>&gt; 
LLV(RSI(p1),p1)))*100);<BR>&gt; SRmov:= Mov(SR,s1,E);<BR>&gt; top:= 
Ref(l1,-1);<BR>&gt; bot:= Ref(l2,-1);<BR>&gt; Srmov;<BR>&gt; top;<BR>&gt; 
bot;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Regards<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Benzie<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; 
Guy,<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just out of curiosity, what kind of time span is 
your short and<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; intermediate systems?<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; 
Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Adam<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Guy Tann <BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A 
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 12:43 AM<BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: RE: S&amp;P 500 chart....<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; 
<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adam<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; FWIW, our 
system still is long (the Intermediate Term System and our<BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Short Term System) so we're not looking for a major break 
yet.&nbsp; Our<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; system has been pretty good at picking 
market tops and bottoms, and<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; while we've been getting 
tossed about lately, we've been holding on and<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; riding 
the trades out for small gains.&nbsp; Actually, we've been averaging<BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; down (or up as the case may be) and making a few bucks.<BR>&gt; 
&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Until our ITS turns bearish, we'll be trading the 
long and short side of<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; the S&amp;Ps based upon our 
STS.&nbsp; When the ITS and the STS both turn down,<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
we'll be buying all kinds of Puts as well as shorting the S&amp;Ps.&nbsp; Our 
ITS<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; went bullish at 994 (S&amp;P) so it's been a fairly 
good ride so far.&nbsp; We<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; had one ITS (without a STS 
sell) sell on 6/3/99 with a buy on 6/15/99<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; and that was 
the only sell we've had on the ITS since our original buy<BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; at 994.&nbsp; Made a few points on the sell and are fairly even 
on the buy<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; side, so far.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regards<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Guy<BR>&gt; &gt; 
<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; -----Original 
Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: <A 
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; [<A 
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On 
Behalf Of Von Hef Sent: Monday,<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; August 09, 1999 8:21 PM 
To: MetaStock Subject: S&amp;P 500 chart....<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Looks like the S&amp;P may be ready to turn up. The price is 
close to<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; support (the center tine of the long-term 
fork) AND the short-term<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; momentum is turning (but 
hasn't crossed the trigger line yet).&nbsp; Will<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; wait 
and see what the next bar's action is.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; 
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adam<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp; I like the idea of&nbsp; "adaptive" periods in a system 
and I have wrestled with this concept, but the current MetaStock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>language doesn't lend itself to easily implement these 
techniques.&nbsp;Of course I realize that your system is completely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>different (statistical based isn't it?) than anything I have 
looked at. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999>"Hopefully, we're testing the low and will see some 
recovery before our STS signals a sell."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>&nbsp;I also hope 
you are right....because technically speaking we are getting very close to 
some</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999> 
bearish signals.&nbsp;The market closed</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>right above the 
1280-1290 support level (as I read it).&nbsp;If the market falls much further 
than this in the next days, then&nbsp;when the</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>market turns back 
up, we&nbsp;would</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999> need the up-swing to continue past the previous high 
(1431) before I could omit this</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>bearish (low) 
warning. Anywise enough of my rambles.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>&nbsp; 
Adam</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</FONT>----- Original Message 
-----&nbsp; </DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Guy Tann </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:42 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: S&amp;P 500 chart....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999>Adam</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>Our 
  STS varies from 1 day to 30 or 40 days.&nbsp; It reacts fairly quickly and is 
  usually able to anticipate major market turns.&nbsp; Our ITS can also 
  vary.&nbsp; In the past, it has run from as little as 5 days to signaling a 
  buy on 10/1/98 and not signaling a sell until 6/3/99.&nbsp; It varies also, as 
  you can see.&nbsp; Our ideal trade is when they're both in agreement.&nbsp; 
  That sell on 6/3/99 (signal date to trade the next day or at the close that 
  day) did not have a STS sell.&nbsp; That was followed by an ITS buy signal on 
  6/14/99 and has been long ever since (S&amp;P @1298 approximately).&nbsp; The 
  ITS has had one losing trade (8.50 points) in the last 3 years, but has 
  experienced some significant drawdowns.&nbsp; That's why we're sticking out 
  this long trade, hoping that we will either have a little loss or make a few 
  dollars. :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999>Hopefully, we're testing the low and will see some 
  recovery before our STS signals a sell.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999>Again, we feel that any major market&nbsp;move will 
  be signaled when both our STS and our ITS are in agreement.&nbsp; In that 
  case, we plan on increasing our exposure and shorting the immediate world. 
  :-)&nbsp; Since we don't have that situation right now, we feel we're 
  basically still in a bull move retracement.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=790262101-11081999>The 
  combined STS and ITS has not had a loss in the last few years.&nbsp; The 
  current trade there is long S&amp;P @ 994 on 10/1/98 and still long 
  today.&nbsp; Now, my dad had calculated 11,2xx as a potential market high (I 
  believe I did communicate that to the list a while back or at least to JimG) 
  and stated that he felt this might hold.&nbsp; We were looking for a retest of 
  that number but didn't get it.&nbsp; If we blew through the 11,2xx level, our 
  next target was 11,9xx.&nbsp; These are all using the S&amp;P.&nbsp; This 
  picking of targets is not a science but something we do using Elliot Wave type 
  numbers (they tell me) and trying to identify points from which to make your 
  calculations.&nbsp; If we're lucky in picking the right point, then we look 
  like geniuses.&nbsp; In the last few years, the market has blown through all 
  of our targets, so we look like idiots, for the most part.&nbsp; That's why we 
  don't use these targets as actual trading points, but occasionally wish we 
  would have (like this move).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999>Guy</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=790262101-11081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
  Behalf Of</B> Von Hef<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 1999 4:25 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: S&amp;P 500 
  chart....<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp; Just out of curiosity, what kind of time span is your 
  short and intermediate systems?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Adam</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    Guy Tann </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 1999 12:43 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: S&amp;P 500 
chart....</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999>Adam</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999>FWIW, our system still is long (the Intermediate 
    Term System and our Short Term System) so we're not looking for a major 
    break yet.&nbsp; Our system has been pretty good at picking market tops and 
    bottoms, and while we've been getting tossed about lately, we've been 
    holding on and riding the trades&nbsp;out for small gains.&nbsp; Actually, 
    we've been averaging down (or up as the case may be) and making a few 
    bucks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999>Until our ITS turns bearish, we'll be trading the 
    long and short side of the S&amp;Ps based upon our STS.&nbsp; When the ITS 
    and the STS both turn down, we'll be buying all kinds of Puts as well as 
    shorting the S&amp;Ps.&nbsp; Our ITS went bullish at 994 (S&amp;P) so it's 
    been a fairly good ride so far.&nbsp; We had one ITS (without a STS sell) 
    sell on 6/3/99 with a buy on 6/15/99 and that was the only sell we've had on 
    the ITS since our original buy at 994.&nbsp; Made a few points on the sell 
    and are fairly even on the buy side, so far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999>Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999>Guy</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    class=360443305-10081999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Von Hef<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 09, 1999 8:21 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> MetaStock<BR><B>Subject:</B> S&amp;P 500 
    chart....<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Looks like the S&amp;P may be ready to turn up. The price is close 
    to&nbsp;support (the center</DIV>
    <DIV>tine of the long-term fork) AND the short-term momentum is turning (but 
    hasn't crossed</DIV>
    <DIV>the trigger line yet).&nbsp; Will wait and see what the next 
    bar's&nbsp;action is.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; Adam</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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