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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Chuck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Uhhh, the GIF looked as tho it fell out of your Hat 
</FONT><FONT size=2>AND&nbsp;as if my glasses were broken.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It could have also been a&nbsp;pre-war Disney collecection's 
colored-in black&amp;white graph,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>eg </FONT><FONT size=2>will leave it to dry (out till 
summer).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
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".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:wemlinger@xxxxxxxxxx"; title=wemlinger@xxxxxxxxxx>Chuck 
  Wemlinger</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zaterdag 1 mei 1999 7:42</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bar color problem</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for the reply.&nbsp; You always have seem to have a 
  handle on all the references and documentation out there.&nbsp; I don't know 
  what the attached GIF looked like on your end but I think the problem may be 
  that the weird colors are due to my Searsucker Hat and Gargoyle Jockstrap 
  Desktop Theme that developed as a result of cabin fever.&nbsp; Perhaps it will 
  lighten up as summer arrives.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>Chuck</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: Re: imaging programs
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<DIV><FONT size=2>JPEG FAQs - (actualy a very good write up on imaging 
(+formats) in general)<BR><A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-3.html";>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-3.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Note from this page (printed further down below), that the 
JPEG as an</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>image-file </FONT><FONT size=2>standard/format is not ever 
needed, eg first the bomb-bastic BMP file</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>format went </FONT><FONT size=2>haywire on the Internet, and 
now the JPEG files are hardly ever</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(scans/photos only) being </FONT><FONT size=2>used. With the 
better </FONT><FONT size=2>image-software packages around</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(PaintShop, PhotoShop, PhotoDraw2000) </FONT><FONT size=2>GIF 
will be left as </FONT><FONT size=2>one of the only,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>commonly used, compact file standard for any </FONT><FONT 
size=2>(draw/chart) images, eg&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>is also</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the only required format for the&nbsp;chart images 
usage(s).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>MetaStock therefore should (+could) have easy used the GIF 
image file format as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>a </FONT><FONT size=2>program build-in, eg available as an 
Option to User when Save(AS) to HTML.<BR>This would (+could have) save(d) 
everyone (in the past years + in near future the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>lots </FONT><FONT size=2>of frustations on the) the bogus 
in/of the "JPEG to GIF"-conversion jobs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>But I am assuming here also that they will never do so, eg 
as&nbsp;<FONT size=2>the JPEG standard</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>is freeware </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT 
size=2>and the superior (for charts) GIF is licensed-out for a fee by 
Compuserve.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Though, note also here, that the powerfull file size reducing 
super compressed GIF<BR>file format, eg the only one format that I and many 
others use (charts), is also the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>very </FONT><FONT size=2>reductive </FONT><FONT size=2>"256 
colors" option, available&nbsp;when saving as a GIF file, eg where</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>otherwise </FONT><FONT size=2>millions </FONT><FONT size=2>of 
colours can be used as the maximum. <BR><BR>Windows Keys<BR>Easy Shortcut Keys 
for fast creation of and saving the images to disk. When hit,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>contents will get send to the Windows' Clipboard, eg ready for 
direct Paste jobs in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>any programs (here imaging programs) paste or new file 
options.<BR><BR>[PrintScreen]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
-&nbsp; will copy full screen contents<BR>[Alt + PrintScreen]&nbsp;&nbsp; 
-&nbsp; will copy the current active 
window<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(eg 
the window's title bar is blue, not 
grey)<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Hello 
Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The notes above (at the top of this mail) were put there 'in 
general' and&nbsp;below <FONT size=2>are</FONT> 
<DIV><FONT size=2>some of the other&nbsp;(better) freeware available imaging 
software programs.</FONT><BR><BR>HARDCOPY<BR>The tiny program I use currently + 
most of the time (for the past 2 years !!)<BR>is HARDCOPY v9.1 - (32bit and 1mb 
in size).<BR>It easely reduces 500kb files(JPEG) to 50kb(GIF) and without a 
'single' loss in/of</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>quality, eg in colors or (vectors') drawings (only 1 out of 
1000 sometimes might be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>a mis-color/print, but then again it is freeware).<BR>It will 
easy convert the supported formats(JPEG,GIF,TIFF,BMP,PCX,Targa etc.) 
</FONT><FONT size=2>just</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>by editing the files, eg by clicking the Open and then Save As 
commands(buttons).<BR>Program does come with its 'own' handles, i.e. like any 
other program, but once you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>get aquinted (doesn't take&nbsp;that long)&nbsp;it is just a 
good small straight forward</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>"right hand" in managing AND editing picture 
files.<BR>Homepage: <A 
href="http://www.sw4you.com";>http://www.sw4you.com</A><BR>Mail: <A 
href="mailto:sweckman@xxxxxxxxxx";>sweckman@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss the 
".nospam" bit (including the dot) when 
replying.<BR><BR>=====================================<BR><BR>PicViewer Version 
1.8 Lite / Freeware<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Graphics_Utilities.htm";>http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Graphics_Utilities.htm</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://www.strongsoftware.net/dronix/";>http://www.strongsoftware.net/dronix/</A><BR><BR>Imaging 
for Windows 95 Version 1.0 (Wang / Kodak Freeware)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://www.eastmansoftware.com/products/ImagingPro/instal95.htm";>http://www.eastmansoftware.com/products/ImagingPro/instal95.htm</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://www.eastmansoftware.com/techsupport/ts_win.htm";>http://www.eastmansoftware.com/techsupport/ts_win.htm</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://www.eastmansoftware.com/download/img_us.exe";>http://www.eastmansoftware.com/download/img_en.exe</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://support.microsoft.com/download/support/mslfiles/Imginst.exe";>http://support.microsoft.com/download/support/mslfiles/Imginst.exe</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://www.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q140/9/80.asp";>http://www.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q140/9/80.asp</A><BR><BR>IrfanView32 
- [Skiljan Irfan]&nbsp; - version 2.85 ; read/write <BR>IrfanView32 is a fast 
image viewer that supports animated<BR>GIFs and many other image formats. 
Version 2.85 adds<BR>support for EPS, CLP and CAM file formats. It can 
also<BR>extract all frames from an AVI file.<BR>Windows 95/98/NT 
Freeware.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://www.softseek.com/files/review?GRGG5573sw";>http://www.softseek.com/files/review?GRGG5573sw</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="mailto:e9227474@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:e9227474@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<A 
href="http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9227474/";>http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9227474/</A><BR><BR>PrintKey 
v4.00b3 <BR>PrintKey lets you print the contents of your screen in a<BR>variety 
of ways. Version 4.00 beta 3 offers a new simplified<BR>interface, the ability 
to save pictures directly to a folder,<BR>support for additional file formats, 
the option to include the<BR>mouse cursor, and Windows 98 multi-screen 
support.<BR>Windows 95/98/NT Freeware:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://www.softseek.com/files/review?GRSC13637sw";>http://www.softseek.com/files/review?GRSC13637sw</A><BR><BR>Check 
out the image software section (most is freeware) at<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://software.virtualportal.net/index/shtml";>http://software.virtualportal.net/index/shtml</A><BR><BR>THE 
FREEWARE PUBLISHING SITE<BR>Check out the Graphics Utilities-section on this 
site, that offers a<BR>collection of the best freeware for WINDOWS 95/98. The 
software<BR>presented is no shareware or commercial demoware.<BR>But... real 
FREEWARE. Every day new Freeware is presented ... <BR>THE FREEWARE PUBLISHING 
SITE GRAPHICS UTILITIES<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Graphics_Utilities.htm";>http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Graphics_Utilities.htm</A><BR>THE 
FREEWARE PUBLISHING SITE MISCELLANEOUS<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
href="http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Miscellaneous2.htm";>http://members.xoom.com/freewarepub/Miscellaneous2.htm</A><BR><BR>PhotoEd<BR>PhotoEd(itor) 
is an extra free Microsoft Office97 program that is<BR>included on the 
Office-CdRom (also available at the OfficeUpdate-site).<BR>With the new Office 
2000 program-set, where the older MSPhotoEd<BR>and older MSDraw programs have 
'merged' into the new Microsoft<BR>Photo Draw 2000, eg the pictures and images 
editing program, comes<BR>this&nbsp; &lt;also freeware&gt;&nbsp; program and as 
such is included on the<BR>Microsoft Office 2000-CdRom).<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Parent document is top of "<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq.html"; 
name=up><I>JPEG image compression FAQ, part 1/2</I></A>"<BR>Previous document is 
"<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-2.html"; 
name=up><I>[2] Why use JPEG?</I></A>"<BR>Next document is "<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-4.html"; 
name=up><I>[4] How well does JPEG compress images?</I></A>"<BR>
<HR>

<H1>[3] When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF?</H1><PRE><FONT size=2>JPEG is *not* going to displace GIF entirely; for some types of images,
GIF is superior in image quality, file size, or both.  One of the first
things to learn about JPEG is which kinds of images to apply it to.

Generally speaking, JPEG is superior to GIF for storing full-color or
gray-scale images of "realistic" scenes; that means scanned photographs,
continuous-tone artwork, and similar material.  Any smooth variation in
color, such as occurs in highlighted or shaded areas, will be represented
more faithfully and in less space by JPEG than by GIF.

GIF does significantly better on images with only a few distinct colors,
such as line drawings and simple cartoons.  Not only is GIF lossless for
such images, but it often compresses them more than JPEG can.  For example,
large areas of pixels that are all *exactly* the same color are compressed
very efficiently indeed by GIF.  JPEG can't squeeze such data as much as GIF
does without introducing visible defects.  (One implication of this is that
large single-color borders are quite cheap in GIF files, while they are best
avoided in JPEG files.)

Computer-drawn images, such as ray-traced scenes, usually fall between
photographs and cartoons in terms of complexity.  The more complex and
subtly rendered the image, the more likely that JPEG will do well on it.
The same goes for semi-realistic artwork (fantasy drawings and such).
But icons that use only a few colors are handled better by GIF.

JPEG has a hard time with very sharp edges: a row of pure-black pixels
adjacent to a row of pure-white pixels, for example.  Sharp edges tend to
come out blurred unless you use a very high quality setting.  Edges this
sharp are rare in scanned photographs, but are fairly common in GIF files:
consider borders, overlaid text, etc.  The blurriness is particularly
objectionable with text that's only a few pixels high.  If you have a GIF
with a lot of small-size overlaid text, don't JPEG it.  (If you want to
attach descriptive text to a JPEG image, put it in as a comment rather than
trying to overlay it on the image.  Most recent JPEG software can deal with
textual comments in a JPEG file, although older viewers may just ignore the
comments.)

Plain black-and-white (two level) images should never be converted to JPEG;
they violate all of the conditions given above.  You need at least about
16 gray levels before JPEG is useful for gray-scale images.  It should also
be noted that GIF is lossless for gray-scale images of up to 256 levels,
while JPEG is not.

If you have a large library of GIF images, you may want to save space by
converting the GIFs to JPEG.  This is trickier than it may seem --- even
when the GIFs contain photographic images, they are actually very poor
source material for JPEG, because the images have been color-reduced.
Non-photographic images should generally be left in GIF form.  Good-quality
photographic GIFs can often be converted with no visible quality loss, but
only if you know what you are doing and you take the time to work on each
image individually.  Otherwise you're likely to lose a lot of image quality
or waste a lot of disk space ... quite possibly both.  Read sections 8 and 9
if you want to convert GIFs to JPEG.
</FONT></PRE>
<HR>
Parent document is top of "<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq.html"; 
name=up><I>JPEG image compression FAQ, part 1/2</I></A>"<BR>Previous document is 
"<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-2.html"; 
name=up><I>[2] Why use JPEG?</I></A>"<BR>Next document is "<A 
href="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-4.html"; 
name=up><I>[4] How well does JPEG compress images?</I></A>"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>=========================================<BR>----- Original 
Message ----- <BR>From: michael arnoldi &lt;<A 
href="mailto:marnoldi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>marnoldi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>To: A.J. 
Maas &lt;anthmaas@xxxxxx&gt;<BR>Sent: 
zaterdag 1 mei 1999 11:51<BR>Subject: imaging programs<BR><BR><BR>&gt; "There 
are many good freeware imaging programs around, eg for free as<BR>&gt; well as 
for superb quality."<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; any suggestions ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
thanks.<BR>&gt; mike arnoldi<BR>&gt;</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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