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<DIV><FONT size=2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You're right, I do a combination 
fundamental and technical screen first to narrow the universe of stocks to the 
few I download to my MetaStock database.&nbsp; The final timing and selection 
from my MetaStock database is done with the trend channel analysis I described 
below.&nbsp; In fact, there is an additional step with trend channels and market 
indices for determining if I should enter the market and in what direction that 
I haven't described yet.&nbsp; Maybe, I will be able to do that next week 
end.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you missed my description of the 
building block for narrowing the stock universe, yell and I'll send a copy to 
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>JimG  </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:ay286@xxxxxxxx"; title=ay286@xxxxxxxx>John Sellers</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 1998 4:07 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Building Blocks - Trend Channels</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Bookman Old Style" size=4>I think your logic is 
  good, but I thought you used fundamentals to first select a group of stocks 
  first and then apply this technical processing.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Bookman Old Style" size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=4>I do a similar sequential process 
  using fundamentals first then technical selection later. My fundamental 
  process is done with filters in an AAII Stock data base and then I use 
  Bollinger bands for entry &amp; exit. I must admit your technical process is 
  more sophisticated. Also based on your reported progress your system is much 
  more profitable.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Jim Greening &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>Metastock &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Sunday, December 13, 1998 9:57 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Building Blocks - 
    Trend Channels<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last week I talked about how I 
    use trend channels to set targets and stops to tell me when to exit a 
    position.&nbsp; This week I'm going to go back to the beginning to discuss 
    how I use trend channels to tell me when to enter a position.&nbsp; I'd 
    appreciate any comments pro or con on this methodology.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've come to depend more and more 
    on trend channels as my primary technical analysis tool. The theory of trend 
    channel investing is simple. First you have to construct the trend channel. 
    After that is done the rest is easy. For up trend channels you open a long 
    position right after a stock bounces off the bottom of a channel and close 
    the position when it hits the top of a channel. Vice versa for down trend 
    channels. I treat horizontal channels like up trend channels for trading 
    purposes.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, I expand on this simple 
    methodology slightly &lt;G&gt;. First I construct short, intermediate, and 
    long term channels on all my charts.&nbsp; My definition of short, 
    intermediate and long term is flexible. In general short term is days to up 
    to a few months, intermediate term is a few months to over a year, and long 
    term is years. I like to open a position in the direction of the long term 
    trend channel when an intermediate term trend channel is broken and the 
    stock reverses in the direction of the long term trend. Since this is a 
    fairly rare occurrence, my secondary method which occurs much more 
    frequently and is, therefore, the one I use the most, is to enter a position 
    when the short term trend channel is broken and the stock reverses in 
    direction of the intermediate term trend channel.&nbsp; In both cases, the 
    reversal is a better buy signal when it occurs in conjunction with a bounce 
    off the bottom of the longer term trend channel.&nbsp; Once a stock has 
    reversed its trend, I construct a new short term trend channel in the 
    direction of the longer term trend.&nbsp; I use this new Short Term Trend 
    Channel to set my targets and stops as I described last week if I entered a 
    position on the breakout of the old channel.&nbsp; If I missed entering the 
    position at the breakout, there are additional entry points every time the 
    stock bounces off the bottom of the new short term trend channel. 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As you can see, using trend channels for 
    signaling when to enter a new position is straight forward and simple.&nbsp; 
    The trick is how to objectively and consistently construct the trend 
    channels.&nbsp; For short term up trend channels I use the Standard 
    Deviation Channel built into MetaStock. I start the channel immediately to 
    the left of the lowest low in the data being considered and end immediately 
    to the right of the highest high in the time frame. I set the deviation at 2 
    to determine the targets and at 1 to determine the stops.&nbsp; I usually 
    leave it at 1 for looking at the charts since the stop is more important 
    than the target I extend the channel to the right. Anytime a new high is 
    hit, I'll drag the right end of the channel immediately to the right of that 
    high. After a few months with at least two good reactions, I switch to 
    Trader Vic type trend lines to construct my short term channels. I only use 
    Trader Vic type trend lines for intermediate and long term channels.&nbsp; I 
    like the Trader Vic methodology much better than using a standard deviation 
    channel, but it gives many more false signals than standard deviation 
    channels do for very short term channels without any major reactions in the 
    data.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For a Trader Vic up trend line, 
    start with the lowest low in the time frame being considered. Draw a line 
    from that low to a low before the highest high in the time frame such that 
    the line doesn't pass through any data. It's important that you don't draw 
    the line through any data or to a low that is past the highest high in the 
    timeframe. A down trend line is just the mirror image using the highs in the 
    time frame. To construct the up trend channel, extend the line to the right, 
    then draw a parallel line through the most extreme high in the time frame 
    such that the line doesn't intersect any other data points. This is easy 
    with MetaStock. You can hold the CTRL key down, then hold the left mouse key 
    down once you are on the original line and drag a parallel line to where 
    ever you want it. You can do the down trend channels in a similar manner. 
    Horizontal channels are the easiest. Just drop a horizontal line on the 
    highest high and lowest low in the time frame. My final touch is to change 
    the line color and style: blue and dashed for short term channels;&nbsp; red 
    and dashed for intermediate term channels; and magenta and dashed for long 
    term channels.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That's all there is to it, 
    what do you think?&nbsp; Does it make sense?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Jim <BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for the info.&nbsp; I'm still 
looking around, but I think that's exactly what I'm going to do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title=grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx>Guy Tann</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 1998 3:54 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: good computers</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I 
  hate to say it, but I've been building these things for over 25 years.&nbsp; 
  Always did my own in order to get what I wanted.&nbsp; I checked out this last 
  one, asked the dealer to make a few changes (cost less than $100) and let them 
  build the system.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>When 
  I got home, I tried to install the network card and the second drive and 
  noticed the dealer had pasted a sticker across the cabinet and back saying if 
  broken, the warrantee was void.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
  class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Called the 
  dealer and spoke to the store manager and he faxed me a note saying this 
  didn't apply to me and I was off and running.&nbsp; He said it was basically 
  to keep the guy out who knew nothing about computers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Had 
  a couple of problems with some Microsoft software that wiped out the 
  registry.&nbsp; Got new, updated CDs from Microsoft free via overnight 
  delivery and the dealer let me borrow some software I needed to speed up the 
  installation.&nbsp; So far I have absolutely no complaints.&nbsp; I originally 
  bought a 15&quot; monitor, but it was too small compared to my 20&quot;, so I 
  took it back and upgraded to a 17&quot; for just the difference in original 
  price.&nbsp; Oh yes.&nbsp; When I bought it, they had a 12 month interest free 
  payment plan.&nbsp; From this experience, I would have to say that after 
  building at least 20 or more micros, I've done my last 
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=300434508-14121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    [<A 
    href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Jim Greening<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 1998 10:04 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    Re: good computers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I completely agree.&nbsp; I'm 
    shopping around the local clone dealers right now.&nbsp; The only thing you 
    have to watch out for is that you deal with one that gives you a choice of 
    top of the line mother boards and components.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>JimG</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title=grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx>Guy Tann</A> 
      </DIV>
      <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 1998 11:54 AM</DIV>
      <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: good computers</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>I've been building micro computers (notice the name) before 
      there was an<BR>Apple or an IBM PC.&nbsp; I think my first one was in the 
      early 70s.<BR><BR>Anyway, I've found that I can go to one of the local 
      clone manufacturers and<BR>buy a complete system, sometimes for less than 
      the cost of the various<BR>components.&nbsp; Currently, one of the local 
      chains is selling a 450MHz Pentium<BR>II system with 128Mb of RAM, 10+Gb 
      HD, 4x DVD drive, 400w speakers and sub,<BR>plus an 8Mb ATI graphics card, 
      56kb modem v.90, etc., etc. and a 17&quot; .26<BR>monitor (I think as I'm 
      going from memory) for around $1800.&nbsp; There's no way<BR>I'm going to 
      take the time to build one of these again.&nbsp; I bought a 
      complete<BR>system, added another 5.5Gb D: drive and a networking card 
      (10/100 Mb<BR>Ethernet) and I'm done.&nbsp; Oh yes, it also included Win 
      98 and a bunch of<BR>other stuff.<BR><BR>Hardly worth trying to save 
      $100.&nbsp; And that includes a 2 year, 
      total<BR>warrantee.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Guy<BR><BR><BR>&gt; 
      -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>&gt; 
      [<A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On 
      Behalf Of Chuck Engstrom<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:30 
      AM<BR>&gt; To: <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>&gt; 
      Subject: Re: good computers<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; At 12:44 PM 12/12/98 
      GMT, you wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:10:06 -0500, you 
      wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;I'm in the market for a new computer 
      and would appreciate<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;comments good or bad about Micron, 
      Compaq, Dell or any others.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;I want more power and it's 
      time to put my pentium 133 machine<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;out to pasture.<BR>&gt; 
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Upgraded my system with an ASUS P2 motherboard &amp; 
      Pentium II, PC Power<BR>&gt; &gt;&amp; Cooling mini Tower &amp; ATX power 
      supply. Had to buy new memory.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I had to buy a new 
      case and power supply due to the ATX form factor.<BR>&gt; &gt;DELL, Compaq 
      are too proprietary. Micron and Gateway are upgradeable.<BR>&gt; 
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Used the same video, same HD, same monitor, same 
      keyboard, same<BR>&gt; &gt;floppy, etc....<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;See <A 
      href="http://www.TCCOMPUTERS.COM";>www.TCCOMPUTERS.COM</A> or <A 
      href="http://www.necx.com";>www.necx.com</A> for details.&nbsp; TCComputers 
      will<BR>&gt; &gt;put the system together for you, if you are not 
      handy.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;-= Chris ß =-<BR>&gt; 
      &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
      /\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /\/<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
      /\/&nbsp; \&nbsp; /\&nbsp; /<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; 
      /&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \/&nbsp; \/<BR>&gt; &gt;Using MetaStock 
      6.5 | FastTrack | FastRUBE | FastTools | TC2000<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
      &gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I second the motion -- many of the &quot;name&quot; 
      brand computers have in them so<BR>&gt; much stuff that is specially 
      configured to the extent that you<BR>&gt; can't really<BR>&gt; say that 
      their Windows 95 (or 98) boxes subscribe to a presumably 
      &quot;open&quot;<BR>&gt; architecture. Many of them are generally pretty 
      good, of course, but<BR>&gt; whenever you have a problem you have to call 
      Mr. Manufacturer and wait in<BR>&gt; the phone queue for who knows how 
      long. If you are an experienced an<BR>&gt; knowledgeable user, think hard 
      about &quot;rolling your own.&quot; I did my<BR>&gt; own three<BR>&gt; 
      years ago and have had fewer problems than anyone I know who's<BR>&gt; 
      bought brand<BR>&gt; name.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Chuck 
    Engstrom<BR>&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Try installing a generic printer in 
Windows and set it up to print to file.&nbsp; Then select it as your default 
before you print.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>JimG</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:HARELSDB@xxxxxxx"; title=HARELSDB@xxxxxxx>HARELSDB@xxxxxxx</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 1998 1:53 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Printing System Tests to a File?</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>I am trying to print the results of Metastock (v 6.5) System 
  Tests to a file<BR>that can be read by a Lotus 97 123 spreadsheet 
  program.&nbsp; I can save<BR>information to a file using the dialog boxes 
  given by Metastock, however, when<BR>I retrieve it using Lotus, all I get is 
  gibberish and lots of it.&nbsp; I have an<BR>Epson Stylus Color 500 printer 
  and that is my default printer according to the<BR>dialog box.&nbsp; Has 
  anyone else run into this kind of problem and, more<BR>importantly, have they 
  figured out how to get around it?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Dan<BR>Pocatello, ID 
  USA</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Jim Greening" <JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: C & EGGS 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C &amp; EGGS closed below my stop so 
I'll close those positions tomorrow.&nbsp; Also I now have the DJI, OEX, and SPX 
in a short term down trend channel.&nbsp; I'm thinking about pulling the plug on 
all my open positions if the market looks bad tomorrow.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Hi ya &quot;Swami&quot; 
Jim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think for pointers on how to tweak your system 
you need to look no further than your book of closed trades. I assume you do 
keep (at least you should) a careful record of each trade? My feeling is that 
just about any system based on sound trading logic that can be backtested can 
make you money using the right money management&nbsp; filters. </FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>So if I were you, I'd go thru my closed book and play 
&quot;what if&quot; with my exit stops. <FONT face=Arial size=2>Obviously, this 
is not something that can be done by computer unless you've kept all the details 
of the trades on a spreadsheet. Even then it's no easy task.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That said, you do have a good low-risk objective 
strategy that's on a real hot streak. But from my point of view, it's not so 
much your channel entry/exit system but your stock selection that is making you 
the bucks. By that I mean, every week you generate a list of possibilities from 
which you take your weekly trade. You normally don't have the buying power to 
take all signaled trades so you are forced to select 1 or 2 stocks out of 
several candidates. Moreover, I sense your last cut may be pretty subjective. 
Your recent choices have been amazing, almost telepathic and why I've nicknamed 
you the Swami ;-), in that they are almost immediately followed by some 
news-driven move. Iomega and Eggs are recent examples that pop into my 
mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But, without taking all signaled trades, its hard 
to measure your systems real performance. Your systems recent success may very 
well be just due to the &quot;luck of the draw.&quot; So, you might want to also 
examine records of trades you passed on to get a better feel if it's just your 
good &quot;judgement&quot; or the system that's making you money. If it's the 
system and the returns are acceptable for the risk, then my advise is don't 
fiddle with it. Try working on another system you can add to your toolbox that 
will work under different market conditions. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's all I can offer for now. Probably not much 
immediate help but perhaps some food for thought.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Merry Christmas,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rick</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
</B>Jim Greening &lt;<A 
href="mailto:JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
</B>Metastock &lt;<A 
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
</B>Monday, December 14, 1998 4:31 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Building Blocks - Trend 
Channels<BR><BR></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last week I talked about how I 
    use trend channels to set targets and stops to tell me when to exit a 
    position.&nbsp; This week I'm going to go back to the beginning to discuss 
    how I use trend channels to tell me when to enter a position.&nbsp; I'd 
    appreciate any comments pro or con on this methodology.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've come to depend more and more 
    on trend channels as my primary technical analysis tool. The theory of trend 
    channel investing is simple. First you have to construct the trend channel. 
    After that is done the rest is easy. For up trend channels you open a long 
    position right after a stock bounces off the bottom of a channel and close 
    the position when it hits the top of a channel. Vice versa for down trend 
    channels. I treat horizontal channels like up trend channels for trading 
    purposes.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, I expand on this simple 
    methodology slightly &lt;G&gt;. First I construct short, intermediate, and 
    long term channels on all my charts.&nbsp; My definition of short, 
    intermediate and long term is flexible. In general short term is days to up 
    to a few months, intermediate term is a few months to over a year, and long 
    term is years. I like to open a position in the direction of the long term 
    trend channel when an intermediate term trend channel is broken and the 
    stock reverses in the direction of the long term trend. Since this is a 
    fairly rare occurrence, my secondary method which occurs much more 
    frequently and is, therefore, the one I use the most, is to enter a position 
    when the short term trend channel is broken and the stock reverses in 
    direction of the intermediate term trend channel.&nbsp; In both cases, the 
    reversal is a better buy signal when it occurs in conjunction with a bounce 
    off the bottom of the longer term trend channel.&nbsp; Once a stock has 
    reversed its trend, I construct a new short term trend channel in the 
    direction of the longer term trend.&nbsp; I use this new Short Term Trend 
    Channel to set my targets and stops as I described last week if I entered a 
    position on the breakout of the old channel.&nbsp; If I missed entering the 
    position at the breakout, there are additional entry points every time the 
    stock bounces off the bottom of the new short term trend channel. 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As you can see, using trend channels for 
    signaling when to enter a new position is straight forward and simple.&nbsp; 
    The trick is how to objectively and consistently construct the trend 
    channels.&nbsp; For short term up trend channels I use the Standard 
    Deviation Channel built into MetaStock. I start the channel immediately to 
    the left of the lowest low in the data being considered and end immediately 
    to the right of the highest high in the time frame. I set the deviation at 2 
    to determine the targets and at 1 to determine the stops.&nbsp; I usually 
    leave it at 1 for looking at the charts since the stop is more important 
    than the target I extend the channel to the right. Anytime a new high is 
    hit, I'll drag the right end of the channel immediately to the right of that 
    high. After a few months with at least two good reactions, I switch to 
    Trader Vic type trend lines to construct my short term channels. I only use 
    Trader Vic type trend lines for intermediate and long term channels.&nbsp; I 
    like the Trader Vic methodology much better than using a standard deviation 
    channel, but it gives many more false signals than standard deviation 
    channels do for very short term channels without any major reactions in the 
    data.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For a Trader Vic up trend line, 
    start with the lowest low in the time frame being considered. Draw a line 
    from that low to a low before the highest high in the time frame such that 
    the line doesn't pass through any data. It's important that you don't draw 
    the line through any data or to a low that is past the highest high in the 
    timeframe. A down trend line is just the mirror image using the highs in the 
    time frame. To construct the up trend channel, extend the line to the right, 
    then draw a parallel line through the most extreme high in the time frame 
    such that the line doesn't intersect any other data points. This is easy 
    with MetaStock. You can hold the CTRL key down, then hold the left mouse key 
    down once you are on the original line and drag a parallel line to where 
    ever you want it. You can do the down trend channels in a similar manner. 
    Horizontal channels are the easiest. Just drop a horizontal line on the 
    highest high and lowest low in the time frame. My final touch is to change 
    the line color and style: blue and dashed for short term channels;&nbsp; red 
    and dashed for intermediate term channels; and magenta and dashed for long 
    term channels.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That's all there is to it, 
    what do you think?&nbsp; Does it make sense?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Jim <BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=687542002-15121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>it 
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<DIV><SPAN class=687542002-15121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>it is 
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Jim Greening<BR><B>Sent:</B> December 14, 1998 6:03 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Printing 
    System Tests to a File?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Try installing a generic printer 
    in Windows and set it up to print to file.&nbsp; Then select it as your 
    default before you print.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>JimG</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 1998 1:53 AM</DIV>
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        <DIV><BR></DIV>I am trying to print the results of Metastock (v 6.5) 
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>> What OS do you use with the dual processor system?

I know that two microprocessors you can use with WinNT, OS Warp, and Linux,
Solaris.

I think you can use four microprocessors when you use customized WinNT. HP
was using it for their servers.

Andrew

PS. There is Pentium Pro motherboard called Goliath that supports 4 Pentium
Pro microprocessors. Moreover, nee Intel Xeon can work in 4 processors
configuration. Pentium II is able to work in 2 microprocessor systems.