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Re: Re RTD attention to the ID=800 Problem



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For John Slauson et al

The phenomenon (is that how you spell it?) you are seeing where there are more
id=800's on monday and tuesday and less occurrences the rest of the week will
never be found if that is what you are focusing on.

What you are seeing is human nature at work.  I am sure some of your customers
having had the weekend to unwind and having contemplated their life in general
figure that by now Reuters must have surely fixed their id=800 problem.

So they begin the week anew hoping that maybe things will be different this time
and they will be able to get a download thru before anybody else does.  After
trying many times on monday nights and many times on tuesday nights they
eventually realize that (a) they need more sleep than they are getting and (b) the
rest of the human race is not wasting their life sitting in front of a CRT trying
to download 0's and 1's.

Hence, as the week drags on they give up one by one and mutter to themselves "This
is not working - I've got to find a better way."

That is why you see more failures on monday's and tuesday's and less during the
rest of the week.  People give up and they have other things to do.  People don't
want to waste every night of the week trying to download.

At the risk of repeating myself - this is a volume problem.  It is not related to
potential events that may happen more often on monday nights such as solar flares,
the earth spinning differently on those two nights etc..

You are witnessing human nature at work.

We know the success rate of downloads increases as the week goes on.

I would bet the absolute number of actual successful downloads decreases.



JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Re RTD attention to the ID=800 Problem
>
> The feedback (below) may be several months later than what some of us would
> have liked, but the following is John Slauson's respone to the ID=800 problem
> a lot of us RTD users experienced last night. RTD may not be perfect and both
> they and Equis have seemed unresponsive to our complaints the past 6 months,
> but it sounds like they're 1) planning to solve the problem and 2) keep us
> better informed about the progress in solving the problem.
>
> I noticed the earlier post about Dial not correcting erroneous data. I haven't
> checked for many months but when I was checking periodically, I could be
> reasonably certain that when I checked a 3-4 day old IBD, the prices for the
> futures contracts I was following coincided with the RTD figures.
>
> Keeping us informed will be a big improvement. I just hope it happens. And
> today is Tuesday (see below) with another big market move today. I hope all of
> us RTD users have better luck tonight.
>
> Besides - I can be patient a little longer given a mea culpa.
>
> Joe Heard
> 090198, 1406MST
>
> Subj:    RE: ID=800 Addendum
> Date:   98-09-01 16:31:49 EDT
> From:   jslauson@xxxxxxxxx (John Slauson)
> To:     JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx ('JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx')
>
> That should be OK (fingers crossed <g>.)
>
> Thanks.
>
> --john
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx [SMTP:JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 2:17 PM
> > To:   jslauson@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:      Re: ID=800 Addendum
> >
> > John,
> >
> >   Do you mind if I post your reply to my e-mail on the equis user's
> > group  list? Might help everyone keep cool.
> >
> >   Thanks for the response,
> > Joe Heard, 090198, 1316MST
>
>
> Subj:    RE: ID=800
> Date:   98-09-01 12:00:48 EDT
> From:   jslauson@xxxxxxxxx (John Slauson)
> To:     JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx ('JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx')
>
> Joe,
>
> I understand your frustrations.  We have been monitoring the failure
> rate of collections closely over the last several months.  Up until the
> last two weeks the problem was only occurring on Monday's and some
> Tuesdays.  The last two weeks have been very difficult however.  We have
> had problems on other days as well.  Interestingly, there was no
> correlation between the amount of traffic (or amount of data collected)
> and the failure rate.  It was limited to the "day of week".  From all
> indications there is another process interfering with RTD collections in
> the early part of the week.  The historical data servers from which RTD
> gathers its data is shared with other non-RTD applications and services.
> We are currently attempting to isolate this Monday/Tuesday interference
> with RTD.
>   We will get this resolved.  The absolute minimum expection customers
> have of a data service is "consistent" data delivery.  We have been
> failing in this regard.  We realize customers will go elsewhere unless
> we can improve.  RTD has some great features that the competition can't
> offer.  Unfortunately, these features become a non-issue when the data
> is not being delivered consistently.
>
> Thank you for your feedback.
>
> --john
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx [SMTP:JonRRHenry@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 10:05 PM
> > To:   jslauson@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:      ID=800
> >
> > John,
> >
> >   Maybe your computers and/or networks are extremely busy tonight with
> > the big  decline in the DJ; however, I can't even get a completed download
> of
> > only 132  futures contracts! I've tried repeatedly. The 467 - I gave it up
> as a
> > lost  cause after only 1 attempt.
> >
> >   I realize that retail customers probably don't cover much more than
> > marginal  costs but I really expect more than a cryptic "ID=800" message. I
> > concede that  I don't often get such a message even with my big download.
> All the
> > more  reason why a more informative error message would be appreciated.
> >
> >   My RTD contract has to be renewed this month, John, but, quite
> > frankly, I  haven't seen any effort on Reuter's part to provide a more user
> > friendly  interface; i.e., more informative error messages as noted above.
> Maybe
> > you  guys keep statistics on the number of network callers dropped and the
> > like and  maybe you can prove things have improved but it sure seems like
> when I
> > need  the data the most, it's unavailable.
> >
> >   Please let me know about the ID=800 problems, John. Maybe it's a
> > capacity  problem and you guys are spending $XX million a month in an effort
> to
> > solve  the problem. I closely monitor the Equis users list, as I'm sure
> > someone at  RTD does. Most of the complaints about RTD concern the ID=800
> problem.
> > I'm  extremely concerned as I don't see this kind of complaint about other
> > data  providers.
> >
> >   Thanks in advance for your prompt response.
> >
> > Joe Heard,
> > Acct. #
> > 083198, 2104MST
> >