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[amibroker] Re: Do all trading systems stop working? - Howard Bandy's book



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Wave,

I should have included the time frame I was ranking over.  My ranking is EOD, for trades lasting from a few weeks to a few months - basically swing trading.

The point I was trying to make was that Howard Bandy may be right, but there are still sectors of the market that outperform the broad averages like the S&P  -  at least over the short term.

Another point that Bandy makes is that very short term trading systems (day trading) seem more resistant to breaking - so all may not be lost.  Finally, another curious feature is that an end of the month trade covered in his book is well known but continues to work - witness the last few days of trading ! !

ReefBreak


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@xxx> wrote:
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> Happen to be doing well now.  How about KOL in 11/08?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Ed Hoopes 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: June 02, 2009 12:58 PM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Do all trading systems stop working? - Howard Bandy's book
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>   I guess that we all need to get better at market timing if we're going to trade SPY.
> 
>   Out of the 1600 or so ETF-CEF funds there are a few that stand out - all are sector funds that happen to be doing well.
> 
>   Check out:
>   KOL - Coal
>   PWND - Wind Energy
>   IDX  -  Indonesia
>   PSTL - Steel
> 
>   ReefBreak
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>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Yes, last year was the real benchmark for managers/investors/traders ... I hope I learned my lessons ready for the next one. High volatility and correlated screaming bear years are here to stay.... they are the inevitable consequence of momentum trading, which is a self perpetuating system until the music stops and someone is left holding the parcel.
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>   > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@> wrote:
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>   > > I suspect that these funds are not run by black boxes although the managers are working within a defined methodology.  In any case, over the last couple of years the picture is a little different relative to the S&P500.  In that case, all are in the same ballpark (a little higher/lower over time) except for two underperformers - PSP and STH.  So, relative to these funds make life simple buy SPY and close your eyes.
>   > > 
>   > > Bill
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>   > > 
>   > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >   From: Ed Hoopes 
>   > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > >   Sent: June 02, 2009 11:02 AM
>   > >   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Do all trading systems stop working? - Howard Bandy's book
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > >   There are publicly traded funds organized around various trading systems.  Below are a few for comparison:
>   > > 
>   > >   NFO - Insider Info
>   > >   STH - Stealth
>   > >   XRO - Sector Rotation
>   > >   PIQ - Magni Quant
>   > >   PSP - Private Equity
>   > >   FVI - ValueLine 100 Stocks
>   > >   BWV - Covered Calls
>   > >   CSD - Spin Off Companies
>   > >   DEF - Defensive Stocks
>   > >   EZY - Low PE Ratio Stocks
>   > > 
>   > >   Now take each one of the above and do a relative performance to the overall market - like VTI Vanguards Total Market ETF - and you can see how well they work.
>   > > 
>   > >   NFO, PSP, EZY top the list with a modest out performance using my ranking algorithm.  The majority equal the market or underperform.
>   > > 
>   > >   For me the most disappointing is FVI only as good as the broad market - so much for $650.00/yr fundamental/technical analysis newsletter.  XRO - is the worst.
>   > > 
>   > >   ReefBreak
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