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Re: [amibroker] Re: Expectancy - and related--specifically K-rato



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Oops - I'm sorry. The formula should read:

WFE=(OOS CAR/OOS Buy&Hold CAR) / (IS CAR/IS Buy&Hold CAR)

Greetings, 
Thomas

> Hello!
>
> I think Pardo's WFE is questionable. How can you compare IS CAR with OOS
> CAR if the concatenated IS and OOS periods are completely different? As an
> example, let's assume that you're doing a walk-forward test with the first
> IS period starting on, say, 01/01/1996 and ending 31/12/1999 and,
> consequently, the first OOS period starting on 01/01/2000. Considering how
> the markets developed from 2000, it's very probable that the IS CAR is
> completely different from the OOS CAR until today as market conditions
> changed dramatically. So comparing both CARs as absolute figures is like
> comparing apples with oranges as different market condition will also
> affect the performance of your trading system and, hence, the CARs over the
> concatenated IS and OOS periods.
>
> In my opinion, a better and more reasonable (but still no perfect) approach
> is comparing IS *Relative* CAR with OOS *Relative* CAR. The formula would
> be:
>
> WFE=(IS CAR/IS Buy&Hold CAR) / (OOS CAR/OOS Buy&Hold CAR)
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Thomas
>
> On Saturday 09 May 2009 05:03:16 dloyer123 wrote:
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rajiv Arya <rajivarya87@xxx> wrote:
> > > I like to compute a ratio of the out-sample metric and divide it by the
> > > in-sample metric.
> > >
> > > And I like to look for multiple runs of out-sample/in-sample ratio to
> > > be above 0.5 and with little fluctuation.
> >
> > That is similar to Pardo's WFE (Walk forward efficiency), or a measure of
> > how much curve fitting inflated test results.  Pardo suggests taking the
> > concatenated out of sample returns and divide by the result treating the
> > entire combined data set as in sample.  Anything below 0.65 will probably
> > not trade well live.  The higher, the better.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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