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Hi Tomasz,
This solution looks interesting. However is there a way to set up
Amibroker such that when the net position is long only shorts are
added and when the net position is short only long positions are
taken? This way we can get a truly market neutral strategy?
Regards,
Olivier
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
wrote:
>
> As many signals will be processed as there is enough cash to open
positions.
> Also market neutral portfolios are supported directly without
custom backtester,
> thanks to new feature MaxOpenLong/MaxOpenShort.
>
> See this:
> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/wp-
content/uploads/2008/10/readme5190.html
>
> Scroll down the document to this part:
>
> CHANGES FOR VERSION 5.11.0 (as compared to 5.10.1)
> Backtester: Implemented SeparateLongShortRank
>
> To enable separate long/short ranking use:
> SetOption("SeparateLongShortRank", True );
>
> When separate long/short ranking is enabled, the backtester
maintains TWO separate "top-ranked" signal lists, one
> for long signals and one for short signals. This ensures that long
and short candidates are independently even if position score
> is not symetrical (for example when long candidates have very high
positive scores while short candidates have only fractional
> negative scores).
> That contrasts with the default mode where only absolute value of
position score matters, therefore one side (long/short) may
> completely dominate ranking if score values are asymetrical.
>
> When SeparateLongShortRank is enabled, in the second phase of
backtest, two separate ranking lists are interleaved to form final
> signal list by
> first taking top ranked long, then top ranked short, then 2nd top
ranked long, then 2nd top ranked short, then 3rd top ranked long
> and 3rd top ranked short, and so on... (as long as signals exist in
BOTH long/short lists, if there is no more signals of given
> kind, then
> remaining signals from either long or short lists are appended)
>
> For example:
> Entry signals(score):ESRX=Buy(60.93), GILD=Short(-47.56), CELG=Buy
(57.68), MRVL=Short(-10.75), ADBE=Buy(34.75), VRTX=Buy(15.55),
> SIRI=Buy(2.79),
>
> As you can see Short signals get interleaved between Long signals
even though their absolute values of scores are smaller than
> corresponding scores of long signals. Also there were only 2 short
signals for that particular bar so, the rest of the list shows
> long signals in order of position score
>
> Although this feature can be used independently, it is intended to
be used in combination with MaxOpenLong and MaxOpenShort options.
> Backtester: MaxOpenLong/MaxOpenShort implemented
>
> MaxOpenLong - limits the number of LONG positions that can be open
simultaneously
> MaxOpenShort - limits the number of SHORT positions that can be
open simultaneously
>
> Example:
> SetOption("MaxOpenPositions", 15 );
> SetOption("MaxOpenLong", 11 );
> SetOption("MaxOpenShort", 7 );
>
> The value of ZERO (default) means NO LIMIT. If both MaxOpenLong and
MaxOpenShort are set to zero (
> or not defined at all) the backtester works old way - there is only
global limit active (MaxOpenPositions) regardless of type of
> trade.
>
> Note that these limits are independent from global limit
(MaxOpenPositions).
> This means that MaxOpenLong + MaxOpenShort may or may not be equal
to MaxOpenPositions.
>
> If MaxOpenLong + MaxOpenShort is greater than MaxOpenPositions
> then total number of positions allowed will not exceed
MaxOpenPositions, and individual long/short limits will apply too.
> For example if your system MaxOpenLong is set to 7 and maxOpenShort
is set to 7 and MaxOpenPositions is set to 10
> and your system generated 20 signals: 9 long (highest ranked) and
11 short, it will open 7 long and 3 shorts.
>
> If MaxOpenLong + MaxOpenShort is smaller than MaxOpenPositions (but
greater than zero), the system won't be able to
> open more than (MaxOpenLong+MaxOpenShort).
>
> Please also note that MaxOpenLong and MaxOpenShort only cap the
number of open positions of given type (long/short).
> They do NOT affect the way ranking is made. I.e. by default ranking
is performed using ABSOLUTE value of positionscore.
>
> If your position score is NOT symetrical, this may mean that you
are not getting desired top-ranked signals from one side.
> Therefore, to fully utilise MaxOpenLong and MaxOpenShort in
rotational balanced ("market neutral") long/short systems
> it is desired to perform SEPARATE ranking for long signals and
short signals.
> To enable separate long/short ranking use:
> SetOption("SeparateLongShortRank", True );
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Davis" <_sdavis@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:08 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: How to get "total net position value" in
backtester for market neutral syste
>
>
> > How will the updated signal scores be processed? Aren't, the
signals
> > already sorted by score upon entry to the custom backtester?
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Have a look at the file "AmiBroker Custom Backtester
Interface.pdf
> >> " posted by gp_sydney in the Files section of this group.
> >>
> >> Within your own custom backtest code, you can iterate through
your
> >> open positions on a bar by bar basis. Gather the necessary
> >> statistics, then iterate through the signals for that bar and
adjust
> >> the positon score property as needed.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "olivier_molongo"
> >> <olivier_molongo@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > How can I get "total net position value" in backtester?
> >> >
> >> > My system gives buy and sell signal with positionScore but I
would
> >> like
> >> > to backtest a market neutral system. One idea I have is to
adjust
> >> > position score to favor long trades when I am net short and
short
> >> > trades when I am net long.
> >> >
> >> > But how can I get the net position in AB? which is the sum of
> >> position
> >> > value of open trades.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Olivier
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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