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[amibroker] Re: Semi-OT: Portfolio Manager for frequent Swing Trading



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Trading Reference Links

There's a conference call most Thursdays in which trader tax issues 
(including trading your IRA) and hedge fund formation/management are 
discussed. For example, last I heard, you can't use margin within an 
IRA.

It's largely a means for the hosts to try and drum up new business for 
themselves, and as often as not ends up with "set up a consultation 
with me for more detail". But, it is question and answer based and 
they will directly answer some of the more direct questions.

It may be helpful for your initial explorations.

http://www.greencompany.com/EducationCenter/InteractiveOnlineMeetings.
shtml

Mike

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thank you Dennis, just shrinking the paperwork is a pretty good 
reason to switch.   8 - )
> BTW, would you happen to know about trading futures in an IRA? Can 
it be done? Can one somehow use futures to go short in an IRA? Thanks 
again!
> 
> Steve
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dennis Brown 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:57 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Semi-OT: Portfolio Manager for frequent 
Swing Trading
> 
> 
>   Steve,
> 
> 
>   With stocks and options, you have to reconcile and show every 
transaction in your account during the year on Schedule-D.  For an 
active trader, this can amount to a lot of work matching trades and 
figuring out special situations like mergers.  With futures 
(commodities in IRS speak), the broker just gives you a statement that 
says you made x dollars in the year on Y commodity (like the S&P 500 
or Silver)... end of story.  You fill out a different one page 
schedule --not Schedule-D.  Stocks are considered individual 
investments.  Futures are considered a hedge for real stuff as a 
business need for producers.  Futures speculators help keep the 
commodities prices liquid and at a fair price which helps the economy 
run smoothly. 
> 
> 
>   BR,
>   Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Steve Dugas wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi Dennis - I have been thinking about trying futures lately, I 
know they get the beneficial 60/40 tax treatment but I never knew the 
paperwork was so much easier...could you briefly explain what the IRS  
requires for futures? Thanks!
> 
>     Steve
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Dennis Brown
>       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:19 PM
>       Subject: Re: [amibroker] Semi-OT: Portfolio Manager for 
frequent Swing Trading
> 
> 
>       Hello Ken,
> 
> 
>       I am a frequent trader.  I use thinkorswim as a broker.  I use 
their built-in tools for all actual trade accounting, including tax 
prep.  Actually tax accounting is such a pain, that I prefer to trade 
futures because it eliminates 99.9% of the tax paperwork in the US.  
To get an equity curve, I input my account basis and liquidation value 
in a spreadsheet each night.  It only takes about 5 minutes.  I also 
keep a trade log of my trades each day for my own learning purposes.
> 
> 
>       There is no connection between TOS and AmiBroker programs.
> 
> 
>       Best regards,
>       Dennis
> 
> 
>       On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:47 AM, Ken Close wrote:
> 
> 
>         Google searches produce nothing useful, so I would like to 
ask this question of frequent swing and day traders:  what software do 
you use to track trade results (closed trades especially but also open 
trades)?  Does it include calculation and display of a total resulting 
equity curve?  Does it help in any way for collecting and exporting 
reports for use at tax time?  Does it integrate with Amibroker or is 
standalone?  Please note that I am not asking about the backtesting 
and resulting listing of trades and their statistics in Amibroker, but 
rather the recording of real trades made and closed over time.
> 
>         As background to the questions, as I consider a more 
frequent trading system compared to mutual funds and positions held 
for many weeks if not multiple months, one that might make trades 
lasting weeks at most and perhaps only days, my mind boggles at the 
recordkeeping involved.  With potential trade volumes in the 10 to 30 
per week, the data entry starts to seem formidible.  Surely some 
(many?) on this list do this all the time, and I would appreciate 
knowing something about your recordkeeping system(s), not your timing 
systems (:-o).
> 
>         Now before TJ jumps in here, I just reviewed the AB Account 
Manager Help page.  This seems like it is what I am asking for, but I 
wonder if anyone uses it for their real work, and if its "limitations" 
(one level of undo, chronological entry order, not clear whether 
reports can be exported or not) inhibit it for the purpose I am asking 
about.  If you use something else, it must offer benefits pveer the 
built-in Account Manager---what are they?
> 
>         Is this enough information for you to respond?  Thanks for 
sharing.
> 
>         Ken
>




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