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Dennis: OK, no bubble burst. Seems like the principle applies. It depends
on how many betas come between "major releases".
But hey, I am one who has mentioned wanting improved documentation,
particularly in search term versatility (recently) and in wanting more
robust examples in the help file.
Thanks for the correction,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dennis Brown
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:49 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Help Manual
Ken,
Sorry to burst your bubble, but 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 are the major releases.
However, I am more than willing to give AmiBroker leeway in updating the
docs, but it should not get too far behind. Certainly not a whole release
behind. I would rather have the release and then the doc than
have the release held up waiting for the doc to be completed.
However, I agree with Brian in that once the release is official, the
official release docs should move to near the top of the priority list
(critical bug fixes are always more important).
Best regards,
Dennis
On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Ken Close wrote:
> Brian: your "complaint" overlooks the often stated intent by TJ that
> manual updates (Help files/User Guide) (to incorporate new features)
> happens with every major update (4.0, 5.0) and that interim betas
> carry extensive (well, not extensive but adequate) explanations in the
> accompanying ReadMe files.
> This is how it has been for years.
>
> Were you aware of this stated policy?
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> Of brian_z111
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Help Manual
>
>
> There are far too many Help Manual questions posted in this forum.
>
> This takes up our valueable time answering questions that should
> have been
> answered by AmiBroker.
>
> In fact they waste far more time than OT posts.
>
> Our precious time would be far better spent answering more interesting
> questions.
>
> Some of the features in AB aren't explained in the manual, some
> things are
> out of date and sometimes the explanations are a bit cryptic.
>
> Example:
>
> Prettify was added to the Formula Editor in beta version 5.04
> - included in devlog under version 5.05 Feb08
> - official release v5.10 in June08 which includes manual 5.10
>
> Ami website PDF manual is still version 5.00
>
> - Search PDF for prettify == nothing
> - Search AB manual version 5.1 for prettify == nothing
> - Use AB site search engine == nothing
> - Google amibroker.com == 3 hits from devlog
> - devlog records release but has no info about it and no explanation
> in the
> read me
> - searched KB == nothing
> - searched UKB == nothing
>
> The screenshot of the FE edit dropdown menu, in the Help Manual is
> out of
> date (at least it looks different to my version 5.10)
>
> http://www.amibroker.com/guide/w_afledit.html
>
> The Devlog just says that the Prettify function was added ... looked
> in the
> AFL function list and couldn't find anything... is it a function or a
> function()?
>
> New features should be explained in the official help manual that
> comes out
> immediately after the beta inclusion.
> We should not have to search elsewhere but even if we do we, in this
> case,
> we still find nothing.
>
> It shouldn't be up to volunteers to explain help manual items in
> this forum,
> or the UKB, or anywhere else.
>
> It saves AB some effort if they don't have to keep the manual up to
> date but
> the effort is transferred to the volunteers, who have to answer it
> scores of
> times, instead of AB answering it once.
>
> If we all took the rationalist approach, that some people are
> advocating
> e.g. "users should have skills or lower their sights or pay Graham",
> and
> charged AB for the time we spend providing AB support then the
> program would
> cost thousands of dollars and wouldn't look so cheap, up against other
> software, afterall
>
> brian_z
>
>
>
>
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