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I was using Yahoo symbols as a back-up data base to Esignal plus they
had some indexes Esignal wanted me to pay for. However for some reason
most of my yahoo database is corrupted. It was fine up until a couple
of days ago. For now I will simply use Esignal and nothing else. The
single-country ETFs will suffice. Once again thank you everyone.

Tim








--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "booker_1324" <booker_1324@xxx> wrote:
>
> And Worden EOD dat is about the cleanest data you will find anywhere. 
> I have been using them for years.
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "MillowenaJuno" <millowena@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Have you considered Worden Bros EOD service for your ETF needs.  
> Cheaper 
> > data and Amibroker can access the data.
> > 
> > Millowena
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tim" <raven4ns@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:56 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: SYMBOLS
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for your help. I have decided to use a proxy such as
> > the single-country etfs that are available. I looked up my account 
> at
> > Esignal and it seems you have to pay for each index you wish to
> > access. Since I use them only to let me know what is happening in a
> > general area of the world it's not worth it to me. Once again, thank
> > you very much for your help, it is certainly appreciated.
> > 
> > Warmest regards,
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tim,
> > >
> > > Sorry if I took you too far off topic (I am interested because I
> > > might subscribe to eSignal myself, in the near future, and I do
> > > follow Asia a little bit).
> > >
> > > I found the eSignal symbol list (it wasn't so hard afterall), and 
> the
> > > symbols you mentioned, except for NS 8U-SGX
> > >
> > > I didn't see NS as a symbol on the SGX Futures exchange (NK is 
> there).
> > >
> > > Anyway, provided you are subscribed to the exchange and accessing
> > > data during exchange hours I can't see a problem.
> > >
> > > Surely it is just a matter of asking eSignal support?
> > >
> > > brian_z
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Tim,
> > > >
> > > > I don't use ESignal but if it is any help:
> > > >
> > > > - index data can be patchy (low payback for providers especially
> > > > outside of the US/Euro markets)
> > > > - sometimes I get around this by using the symbol of an ETF that
> > > > tracks the index
> > > > - you need to be careful about this to see now close the fund 
> is to
> > > > the instrument you are trading
> > > > - it also depends on your system as to how accurate the data 
> needs
> > > to
> > > > be relative to your traded instrument
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Example:
> > > >
> > > > - IShares MSCI Japan Index tracks the Nikkei
> > > > - symbol EWS on the US exchanges
> > > > - it trades intraday in Yahoo charts
> > > > - I don't know what the calc period is (not necessarily tick 
> data)
> > > > - you can see the constituents/weighting at their site
> > > > - also view tracking error in a chart
> > > > - they say you can download data (I haven't tried)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ishares.com/home.htm
> > > >
> > > > but the fund might not match a future if the future has carry 
> costs
> > > > associated with it (you could calculate carry costs and make 
> your
> > > own
> > > > pseudo ticker for the index)
> > > >
> > > > - there are other things to look out for if you use a fund 
> symbol
> > > >
> > > > for example - how is the fund 'price' calculated:
> > > >
> > > > (from the IShares site)
> > > >
> > > > "The index levels for all iShares Fund benchmarks are total 
> return,
> > > > except that of the Nasdaq Biotech Fund (IBB), which is price
> > > return,
> > > > and those of the MSCI series, which, as of January 1, 2001, are 
> net
> > > > dividend returns. The benchmarks for the S&P GSTIT sector series
> > > > (IGN, IGW and IGV) display price return levels from index 
> inception
> > > > through December 30, 2002 and, from December 31, 2002 onward,
> > > display
> > > > total return levels.
> > > >
> > > > Total Return: Performance measurement includes both security 
> price
> > > > movement and dividend payments, which are reinvested daily.
> > > >
> > > > Price Return: Performance measured solely by security price
> > > movement,
> > > > excluding dividend payments.
> > > >
> > > > Net Dividend Return: A variation on total return that assumes 
> that
> > > a
> > > > portion of dividends paid is withheld at a standard tax-
> withholding
> > > > rate. The MSCI Net Dividend series assumes withholding based on
> > > > Luxembourg investors. Therefore, the dividend component of Net
> > > > Dividend Return approximates the actual after- tax dividends
> > > received
> > > > by international investors. Actual fund dividend withholdings 
> may
> > > > differ."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are other Nikkei Index/Fund combos out there.
> > > >
> > > > I used to use eSignals symbol guide as a resource tool - it 
> seems
> > > to
> > > > be getting hard to find it now.
> > > >
> > > > I also use 'symbol lookup' at
> > > > http://au.finance.yahoo.com/investing
> > > >
> > > >  or ther ukYahoo site to help find indices/ETF's.
> > > >
> > > > I sometimes go to the index providers/exchanges (e.g. S&P, CME) 
> as
> > > > well (they often list the funds that correspond to their 
> indexes).
> > > >
> > > > On top of that, it depends where you live - I am in Australia 
> so a
> > > > fund that trades on the US exchange is only good for 
> backtesting or
> > > > trading if I use a US time  broker.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, I can trade the Nikkei or the StraitsTimes 
> index
> > > > RT on my Aussie platform but I can't get an historical download
> > > from
> > > > there - I just have to play what is in front of me on the 
> screen.
> > > >
> > > > If I want to get a rough idea of what is happening in Asia,
> > > intraday,
> > > > gold old Yahoo has the Asian indexes on intraday delay.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FTR
> > > >
> > > > You don't say whether you are EOD or RT, where you are based and
> > > what
> > > > eSignal have to say about it?
> > > >
> > > > If you are in the US it is possible that some Asian indexes 
> aren't
> > > RT
> > > > or synched to US time.
> > > >
> > > > brian_z
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "thariman" <thariman@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I do a search with esignal
> > > > >
> > > > > NS 8U-SGX        for Nikkei Mini Future in ( Singapore 
> Exchange )
> > > > > NI225_M U8-OSM   for Nikkei Mini Future in Osaka
> > > > > NI225 U8-OSM     for Nikkei Future in Osaka Securities Future
> > > > > NK U8            for Nikkei Future in CME
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tim" <raven4ns@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > I use Amibroker with Esignal data but can't find a symbol 
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > Nikkei225 or the FTSE that will allow me to get charts. The
> > > symbol
> > > > > > guide is no help because it has 2 different symbols for the
> > > > Nikkei and
> > > > > > neither one work with Amibroker.
> > > > > > If anyone out there uses AB, please let me know what you are
> > > > using for
> > > > > > the symbols. Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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