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Thanks Dennis,
I was just curious about what other software you were using.
Dave
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> > I'd like to know from the original poster what software handles
> > these "problems" because AB has been the best software I have used
> > after many years of many different charting programs. Other programs
> > might be easier to use to start, AB does take more time to learn but
> > well worth that extra time.
>
> I am not suggesting that I would rather use another program, I am
> saying that I HAVE to use another program against my will for doing
> things I want to do in AB. I only want to use AB because it is a
> wonderful product.
>
> But since you ask, the program that I use to draw many of my study
> lines is thinkorswim's (free with account) charting/trading
> applications --they have two charting programs. They have their own
> problems but not the same ones --like no magnet mode, and it is
> written in Java so it is slower than AB.
>
> In TOS you select a study with a right click, then it is active and
> you can make any adjustments with the left mouse only to the selected
> study. A click not on the selected study deselects it. Thinkorswim,
> like AB is a customer oriented company and I really appreciate good
> customer service from both companies. TOS releases a new feature
> version of their desktop trading program every month on a fixed
> schedule --no betas AFAIK. When I point out bugs, it is usually fixed
> in the next release. I am sure they have a number of programmers
> working on the program full time.
>
> BR,
> Dennis
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:17 AM, dave_88_1961 wrote:
>
> > Just a thought,
> >
> > This might be a dumb solution but when I have a lot of studies on a
> > chart and they overlap making it hard to choose one to change I put
> > them in layers, unclick the study layer that overlaps and change the
> > one I want. Click the layer back on and you can look at all of your
> > studies again.
> >
> > I use layers also because somtimes I don't want too many things
> > cluttering up a chart at one time. How many times does a FIB study
> > cover everything else.
> >
> > I'd like to know from the original poster what software handles
> > these "problems" because AB has been the best software I have used
> > after many years of many different charting programs. Other programs
> > might be easier to use to start, AB does take more time to learn but
> > well worth that extra time.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" groups@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,o
> > >
> > > Regarding #726 -
> > > It respects the selection but clicking means CHANGING selection.
> > > If you want to access properties of selected study without
> > changing selection
> > > just use Edit->Properties menu or define keyboard shortcut for
> > that for fast access.
> > >
> > > If all studies are put in the SAME place, how AmiBroker
> > > can tell which one you mean when you are clicking on given X,Y
> > point?
> > > Do you know how it works in any software?
> > > It detects X,Y co-ordinates that you just clicked, then it detects
> > > which studies exist under given point. If more than one exists
> > under the
> > > very same point, it picks first one.
> > > The only alternative that could be implemented is to pick the last
> > one
> > > instead of first.
> > >
> > > As for the rest - that would need to be checked.
> > >
> > > B est regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dennis Brown" see3d@
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:12 AM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > >
> > > > AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use
> > only
> > > > a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade
> > only
> > > > single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading
> > systems just
> > > > in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the
> > traditional
> > > > chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
> > > >
> > > > I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a
> > very
> > > > basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting
> > > > programs.
> > > >
> > > > However, even though the fundamen tal operations are there (and
> > I think
> > > > potentially better), the interface (either design or
> > implementation
> > > > bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this
> > product
> > > > for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In
> > fact, I
> > > > need a second chart from my broker's application open to the
same
> > > > ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB
> > would
> > > > be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been
> > going
> > > > on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
> > > >
> > > > I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in
the
> > > > last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to
> > me when
> > > > they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I
> > have
> > > > actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a
> > while --
> > > > hoping these things would be fixed first.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same
> > bugs,
> > > > but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz
> > knows that
> > > > this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher
> > > > priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others
> > on the
> > > > suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones
> > that
> > > > cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple
> > operation
> > > > that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates
> > frustration and
> > > > emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the
> > line
> > > > drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the
> > trigger
> > > > point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are
> > costing you
> > > > profits (not the nice to have pre tty things) than please add
> > them to
> > > > the conversation.
> > > >
> > > > #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected.
Often
> > > > several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot
points.
> > > > Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common
> > pivot
> > > > point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more
> > > > important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is
> > easy
> > > > to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is
> > unique,
> > > > and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any
> > other
> > > > charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the
> > > > visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study
> > > > crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will
> > grab
> > > > the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un-
> > select
> > > > ; the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it
> > instead.
> > > > After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab
the
> > > > right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its
> > > > current location and reposition all its handles. Very
> > frustrating and
> > > > takes the time and concentration away from the trading action.
> > > >
> > > > #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The
> > horizontal
> > > > lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode
on.
> > > > They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click
on
> > > > the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on
> > the left
> > > > side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes
> > errors
> > > > in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely
> > > > unacceptable behavior for trading.
> > > >
> > > > #890. Study handles chan ge when off screen. Lets say you have
the
> > > > magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two
> > peaks.
> > > > Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right
hand
> > > > handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced
> > to a
> > > > new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak
> > (this
> > > > is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that
> > is
> > > > off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the
> > peak
> > > > you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line
> > to
> > > > the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up
> > > > placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong
place
> > > > now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
> > > >
> > > > #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study,
> > there
> > > > is a thin "shadow" line that show s which bar you have dragged
the
> > > > handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets
> > moved
> > > > to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This
> > wastes
> > > > valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which
> > wrong bar
> > > > to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it.
> > This
> > > > is an annoyance.
> > > >
> > > > And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend
> > lines
> > > > on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute
> > view,
> > > > the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven
> > help
> > > > me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to
> > these
> > > > wrong bars.
> > > >
> > > > There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues
> > affect
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
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only.
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> > >
> >
> >
>
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