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Tomasz,
Using PDF with the UKB as you suggest below is my plan now.
OS X has PDF built into the core applications, so additional Adobe PDF
software is not needed in most cases on a Mac.
However, since most of your customers are running Windows, thank you
for the clarifications on their behalf.
Best regards,
Dennis
On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As I said many times in the past - you can publish in PDF on the UKB
> as well,
> just upload the PDF and give the article a short abstract plus link
> and that's it.
>
> UKB is based on Wordpress that is de-facto standard for "web
> log" (aka "blog"),
> it is different from your desktop publishing tools because Wordpress
> is a *web* application, not standalone application.
> The same difference as Yahoo Charts compared with AmiBroker.
>
> The "PDF" relies on output that is rendered in commercial software
> from one and only vendor, i.e. Adobe. This allows them more strict
> rendering rules and more flexibility because
> there is only one renderer (adobe reader)
> than HTML that must be rendered in dozens of different browsers (IE,
> Firefox, Opera, Netfront, mobile phone browsers,
> Lynx, etc, etc)
>
> As far as Windows is considered, you can print to PDF from every
> application too.
> Just install the PDF printer driver. There are free ones based on
> GNUScript.
> For example DoroPDF.
>
> Once you install, you simply PRINT the document from any application
> (just select the PDF driver as your "printer").
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>
>>>
>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> I guess I have a significant advantage in that I work exclusively
>>> in
>>>> OS X (except for AmiBroker running in a virtual PC XP machine).
>>>> PDF is built into everything. Printing to PDF files is standard.
>>> The
>>>> Apple iWork Pages'08 word processor I use can export
>>>> as .pdf, .doc, .rtfd, or .txt. It also has auto TOC generation.
>>>>
>>>> OSX 10.5 comes with 'Preview' a default viewer for most image
>>> formats
>>>> and PDF is the standard. It also lets me mark up PDFs, merge
>>>> different PDF files and rearrange pages in PDF documents.
>>>>
>>>> My default browser (Safari) opens PDF files directly in the
>>> browser
>>>> without going through a download (it is just in the Browser
>>> cache).
>>>> My Google searches turn up PDF files all the time. I just click
>>> on
>>>> them and my search terms are highlighted in the displayed page, so
>>>> Google must be able to find them in the .pdf docs. I think it is
>>>> because they have a PDF to HTML converter built into the Google
>>>> engine, but I prefer to display the fully formated PDFs.
>>>>
>>>> My system eats and breaths the PDF format, and I don't have any
>>> Adobe
>>>> products involved.
>>>>
>>>> It is no wonder that I want to do ALL my work with this tool set.
>>>> Believe me, it was quite painful for me to try working in
>>> WordPress
>>>> after being spoiled with these tools. It felt like doing
>>> carpentry
>>>> with rocks for hammers.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what is best for others, but I do know what is good
>>> for
>>>> me when I see it.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you find the tools that fit you perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:16 PM, brian_z111 wrote:
>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything about the UKB was new to me, including net publishing,
>>> so
>>>>> I experimented with a range of options, PDF being one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a liking for PDF, since I could control the formatting more
>>> and
>>>>> also I personally quite like to download a PDF - it's a freebie
>>> and
>>>>> also they build to form a searchable desktop database (which I
>>> have
>>>>> had success with - since trading info is so thinly spread and
>>> often
>>>>> recycled I find it efficient to get some quick hits via searching
>>>>> ebooks).
>>>>>
>>>>> I did some homework and had no trouble finding reliable free word
>>> to
>>>>> PDF convertors (they act as a psuedo printer).
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some links from that searching if you need them (I wouldn't
>>>>> have got them all though).
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally thought that posting a summary of the content, as the
>>>>> UKB page, with the copy attached as a PDF link was a good option
>>> (IMO
>>>>> the summary should contain all of the keywords needed for portals,
>>>>> like google, to index the page (web indexers don't search through
>>>>> attached PDF's).
>>>>>
>>>>> (the negative is that visitors won't open an attachment as often
>>> as
>>>>> they will read a webpage).
>>>>>
>>>>> I was keen on adding a TOC to my PDF's and that is where it came
>>>>> unstuck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the best of the PDF clones - my pick was:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nitropdf.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> It claims to be capable of indexing the PDF but I couldn't get it
>>> to
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end I was faced with buying some Adobe software but I
>>> didn't
>>>>> want the price tag, or the maintenance, just for a one off use
>>> (the
>>>>> UKB).
>>>>>
>>>>> From there, I changed over to using Word, with a TOC (I left a
>>> couple
>>>>> of examples of that approach behind FTR).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end, as I gained some experience, I changed around to
>>>>> preferring the pages ( the only limit there is my skill levels
>>> and/or
>>>>> the arm wrestling with WordPress etc e.g. an HTML index of the
>>>>> content of a page is easily achievable in any everyday HTML editor
>>>>> and probably WordPress if I could be bothered to learn it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I am heading in a different direction as my next post will
>>>>> show.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> brian_z
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the UKB postings, I have thought about this also. My
>>>>>> approach will be to generate my material as a stand alone PDF
>>>>>> document and then provide a link to the PDF or other files that
>>>>> are
>>>>>> uploaded. The PDF will be formatted for printability. Then some
>>>>>> screenshots or text as a summary only will be put on the UKB for
>>>>>> direct reading. I did some of that with my first post. I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>>> how pervasive it has become, but my web browser (Safari) displays
>>>>> PDF
>>>>>> files as easily as HTML files. I am sure that this will
>>>>> increasingly
>>>>>> become the standard capability over time. If the vehicle of the
>>>>> UKB
>>>>>> changes in the future, the PDF files will not be affected. I
>>> also
>>>>>> have a lot more freedom in the presentation layout and can work
>>>>>> WYSIWYG with my Pages word processor locally (like I did with my
>>>>>> Flexible Parameters document that was emailed to this list a
>>> short
>>>>>> time back).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I would have preferred to have something a bit easier to
>>>>> work
>>>>>> with, like the easy way AFLs can be uploaded to the AFL Library
>>>>> (zero
>>>>>> learning curve), I believe the organizational structure of the
>>> UKB
>>>>> is
>>>>>> the best place we have right now to place pointers to information
>>>>> so
>>>>>> that people can find it or refer to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Dennis Brown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The K-ratio file is on this site because the UKB was offline
>>> when I
>>>>>> first posted it - it is not a political statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I do post more, on this and related subjects, I am now
>>> unlikely
>>>>> to
>>>>>> use the UKB as the vehicle - that isn't a political statement
>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am just considering my own creative well being and like all
>>>>> artists
>>>>>> I prefer having control of my canvas/workspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am likely to continue occassional posting to the
>>>>>> Data/DatabaseManagement categories at the UKB and move my
>>> original
>>>>>> stats work elsewhere (I haven't made a final decision yet).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm having a break from writing for the UKB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Tomasz started it I told him I would write X amount in the
>>>>> period
>>>>>> up to the end of year 2007 - it was my payback to him for
>>>>> unbelievable
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I went beyond that but now I am not certain that I want to
>>>>> continue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the coummunity spirit and internet compact, where we share
>>>>> free
>>>>>> stuff with each other, but I find that publishing requires
>>> ongoing
>>>>>> commitment to keeping up with additional software (if only I
>>> could
>>>>>> publish hassle free).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I feel the UKB is a success it is a problem for me that
>>>>> more
>>>>>> authors haven't come forward to sustain the opening effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMO the WordPress software, structure of the site, need to sign a
>>>>> legal
>>>>>> for etc are holding the site back, and turning away authors, but
>>>>> AFAIK
>>>>>> Tomasz is unlikely to make any changes there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking at other software/sites where I might set up a NFP
>>>>> site on
>>>>>> my own, or as a joint open effort with other AB users, as I do
>>> have
>>>>>> more stuff (some I have started).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I dropped a dictionary on my PC tower and killed it (some
>>>>> UKB
>>>>>> articles on it were not backed up - if it is a hard drive issue
>>>>> they
>>>>>> may not be recovered) so it will be a while before I publish
>>>>> anything
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to Tomasz, Herman, Fred and Dennis for UKB collaboration,
>>>>>> especially Herman, who is a one in a million guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to the forum for seeing me through my forum/publishing
>>>>>> adoslescence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brian_z
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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