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Hello Brian,
Thanks for the compliments for we Indian . It was a booster dose.
Anyway Rtq downloader which u are talking of is ok but via meta then
there is ms limit of some 65000+ ticks ( quotes bar).
So everyone here prefer Ami atleast when they use rt data.
and for eod there are more than dozens of such chart& query analysis
programs Like "Analyst" "ASA" etc.
and as i said yahoo have all data but due to the time stamp it cant
get any data below 1 min but if the excel util 2ab is used then u get
rates along with volume in 15 sec so this makes me think that there
is a way possible because yahoo does have the data.
And yes there are persons who have develpoed a graphing util along
with rt data fetching ofcourse with all the basic oscillators only
for this purpose but most of which are for inhouse use.
But yes inspite of this there is a market here which was my intention
to write & inform Tomasz.
And It can be tapped provided customers get the rt data and yes
provided customer buys the Ami ofcourse.So both are happy.
Anyway thanks writing
Regards
-sanjayt
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello Sanjay,
>
> Thankyou for your honest answer.
>
> It is not a big secret that people in India are making their own
> solutions.
>
> Everyone understands that AB is an international software and that
> the ave income varies from country to country and that a lot of
> people want to learn to trade but can't afford American prices for
> software and data (the US is still the 2nd highest income per
person
> in the world isn't it?).
>
> Also I have noticed that the Indian community is hardworking and
> believes in self-help and helping each other so I guessed that you
> have home grown solutions in place.
>
> Of course if people are cashing in on 'hacked' versions of AQ, or
> whatever. then they won't be keen for Tomasz to offer an official
> version.
>
> That is why I called on you all to discuss it in the open, so that
> Tomasz has all of the information and can make decisions based on
> that.
>
> Tomasz can't be everywhere so we are his eyes and ears.
> It is not to say he will do anything but at least we can give him
an
> accurate briefing.
>
> In the past he has said that he is not keen on RT data that doesn't
> have backfill because the strength of AB is fast backtesting of
large
> numbers of symbols but India is a special case and he might
> reconsider.
>
> Also we have to remember that he is not going to develop AQ any
> further if no one is going to buy it (I don't think he wants to
work
> for nothing).Re Yahoo RT India
>
> > Ya true but Unless yahoo doesn't give seconds in date/time then
> >even
> > Tomasz cant do it unles he takes the out of the way solution
which
> > here many have started doing it.
>
> That is what I am asking about.
>
> What is the least time interval from Yahoo India?
>
> From your answer it seems that RT YahooIndia is not timestamped
less
> than one minute - have I understood that correctly.
>
> I understand 'your' homemade method.
> In the end you get data with 15sec ticks that is in the correct
order
> (relative to each other tick) so it is useable.
>
> Re US RT data.
>
> I have tried this in order to help Indian users and also other
users
> who want cheap RT data and I am giving it some advertising in this
> forum.
>
> I am not sure about the Yahoo US RT timestamps but I can see it
> updating the data every few secs.
>
> I have received 1 min data >> AB via AmiQuote.
>
> I see that RTQDownloader produces RT Metastock format files from
> RTYahooUS so I am going to try to get that data into AB.
>
> AB's Metastock plugin can be configured to 15sec auto refresh so
> there is some hope there.
>
> The limit will be the RTQDownloader - it might have a one minute
> limit also (OR this could be the timestamp limit for all YahooRT
> data).
>
> Anyway, I am doing this because, in my experience Tomasz is busy
but
> he will give more attention to requests if we do our homework and
> give him a well informed suggestion.
>
> > I am opening their cards but see i am helpless due to my nature.
>
> Thankyou.
>
> Well, this is the best of natures, don't be in any doubt about it!
>
> > And yes all have ami at their heart and all have this Tomasz's
> > jscript inbuilt in their utils which they sell or lease it for rs
> >500
> > to 5000 pm .
>
> RS is that Rupees - I see the exchange rate is around 40 Rupees/
$USD
> so if that is the case there is a market there for Tomasz.
>
> As you have probably noticed I have tried to welcome Indian users
to
> this list because I have a special affinity with Indian culture and
> also because I have tried to open Tomasz's eyes to your market.
>
> >But I dont think anyone would have cared to ask >Tomasz's
> > permission neither any one would have thanked him for the script.
>
> That is the nauture of internet culture.
>
> I give away a lot in the AB forums and I know that some people will
> use it selfishly but I always act for the good silent majority.
>
> Also I don't worry about people stealing my creative efforts -
there
> is plenty more where it came from and I am always a few steps ahead.
>
> Thank you once again for your honesty,
>
> A blessing on you and your family.
>
> brian_z
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Sanjay Thakkar" <thakkarps@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello brian_z,
> >
> > Ya true but Unless yahoo doesn't give seconds in date/time then
> even
> > Tomasz cant do it unles he takes the out of the way solution
which
> > here many have started doing it.
> >
> > Here in India now a days many sware engineers have built some
type
> of
> > utils to encash the rt data boom See their modus operndi is like
> this.
> >
> > Their utils get the data every x seconds from yahoo say eg every
15
> > seconds so in 1 minute u will get 4 ticks ok though the last
close
> is
> > always different but the time in all these 4 tick is same so it
> gets
> > overwite if u import in ami because the date/time in yhaoo data
> dont
> > have seconds so even Tomasz wont be able to do anything unless he
> > takes another way which these so called experts have overcome
this
> > problem this way:
> >
> > So these experts have made what they say "aglo" in their program
in
> > such a way that after it gets the data from yahoo they only take
> the
> > date, close & vol and take the time with seconds from the user's
pc
> > clock just as we would have used now() function in afl or excel
and
> > then they use Tomasz's js script which is in the heart of all
these
> > programs.
> > If u happen to get open or peek 4 strings in their exe file u
will
> > find all have this jscript inbuilt as it is which our Tomasz have
> > made it.So some have now started building their utils in c or
> dot.net
> > so peeking 4 strings becomes difficult.
> >
> > Now I think that these sware engineers would not like my presence
> on
> > this yahoo grp.
> > I am opening their cards but see i am helpless due to my nature.
> > I was the 1st person from India who dared to give bse data some
3/5
> > years back when nobody dared to share it with in open due to
> > restrictions from Bse as at that time they were selling this eod
> data
> > file 4 rs 15000/-pa. Imagine this u have to pay Rs 15000/- pa to
> > Exchane to get eod data. So u can uderstand why there is a boom
for
> > rt data
> >
> > And yes all have ami at their heart and all have this Tomasz's
> > jscript inbuilt in their utils which they sell or lease it for rs
> 500
> > to 5000 pm . But I dont think anyone would have cared to ask
> Tomasz's
> > permission neither any one would have thanked him for the script.
> >
> >
> > ANway this is Life.
> >
> > Regards
> > -sanjayt
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Sanjay,
> > >
> > > RE: Yahoo live data (RT)
> > >
> > > > People keep 2 database with this util which they update it
with
> > > >this 'free utility'
> > > > and they use it with the amiquote in realtime which hetal has
> > > > shown them
> > >
> > > I understand in India you have access to free Yahoo RT data.
> > > For the US we have similar data except that it requires approx
> > USD$10
> > > month.
> > >
> > > I have tried the US data, using Hetals (Johnny's method) and it
> > > worked fine except that it is limited by AmiQuote.
> > >
> > > US Yahoo RT is updating, on line every few seconds, but
AmiQuote
> > only
> > > refreshes every 1 minute so this is the limitation.
> > >
> > > So it looks like we share a common problem with AQ limiting our
> > > access to cheap RT data, unless someone can tell us how to do
it.
> > >
> > > Has anyone found a way to get better than 1 minute data, from
> Yahoo
> > > RT, into AmiBroker?
> > >
> > > I thought I might try the RT downloader from
> > >
> > > http://www.trading-tools.com/
> > >
> > > but it looks as if we can't get that to work either.
> > >
> > > It would be great if Tomasz could do something to help Indian
> > clients
> > > access RT Yahoo directly - that should also help other users
with
> > > getting cheap US RT.
> > >
> > > I did send a suggestion to AB support, on this issue a while
> back,
> > so
> > > there is always hope.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > brian_z
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Sanjay Thakkar" <thakkarps@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Mr H. Patel,
> > > > It's my Pleausre.
> > > > Thanks 4 the compliments.
> > > > Regarding yahoo data live question . At present i dont have a
> > > > solution.
> > > > Though it could be made possible by amiquote in future
provided
> > > yahoo
> > > > start giving seconds in the data which is fetched with
amiquote
> > > and
> > > > if yahoo does this than provided if Tomasz obliges us all by
> > making
> > > > amiquote get that data. But it is all subject to yahoo.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway till then our JoyDeep Mitra's utility will do the need
> > full
> > > > for ieod data. and 4 the yahoo live data (RT) which u asked.
> > > >
> > > > Frankly speaking rt data which we are talking is not rt
data .
> > Even
> > > > the brokers terminal which we are using doesnt give the real
> time
> > > > data in a real rt sense. These are like snapshots.
> > > > I think 4 that there are many infrastructure and other
problems
> > > also
> > > > which is not making it possible.
> > > > for e.g A Dsl conecction which we are using is not upto the
> > > standard
> > > > as it should be.
> > > > So we have to accept this as it is and find our way.
> > > >
> > > > Till then i will suggest to use another free excel util which
> can
> > > > help u to some extent to get that yahoo live rt data to ami
> > > directly
> > > > and this also is a wonderful SMALL UTIL which again is free .
> The
> > > > excel util is developed by Cool Tera of India. This is the
name
> i
> > > > know . I dont know the author's real name. Though this util
is
> > also
> > > > FREE.
> > > > Thanks Cool Tera 4 that.A Great & Simple product and yet free.
> > > > The name of this excel file is ToAb.xls
> > > > All Instruction are there. in the file.
> > > >
> > > > People here were searching a solution to link excel to Ami
via
> > that
> > > > dde for them i think this is the best solution.
> > > >
> > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/102037823/ToAB.rar.html
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy
> > > > -sanjayt
> > > > P.s if i am not wrong you are Hareshbhai from Dadar. Is it So?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, H Patel <hareshbhaip@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Sanjay,
> > > > >
> > > > > I appriciate your efforts for the investors and u are
> really
> > > > sometimes giving quick easy methods for Data.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to talk with u personally if u send me ur
Cell
> > > No..
> > > > Pl note my Mobile No: 9427560572.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can i download Yahoo Data live (RT)?
> > > > >
> > > > > If any idea, pl give me some hints>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sanjay Thakkar <thakkarps@> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Mahesh,
> > > > > There are some who use this method which i mention here
below.
> > > > > Very few people know here that there is also a free util
> which
> > > can
> > > > > download yahoo backfill for 1 min and 5 mins this is the
same
> > > data
> > > > > which when u see charts on yahoo finance in 1 day & 5 day
> format
> > > > > The util is freeware made by JoyDeep Mitra.
> > > > > People keep 2 database with this util which they update it
> with
> > > > this
> > > > > util and they use it with the amiquote in realtime which
> hetal
> > > has
> > > > > shown then at the end of day they overwirte with the backup
> > copy
> > > so
> > > > > if any data are missed and the volume barwise problem is
> solved
> > > And
> > > > > at the and of day they update it with the data downloader
to
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > fresh & complete data for the next day. And if u are using
> > Power
> > > > > IndiaBulls then this util can also convert the tick data to
> ami
> > > > > compatible ieod data.
> > > > > The util can be downloaded from:
> > > > > Thanks to JoyDeep for this freeware util
> > > > >
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/101709982/DATA_DOWNLOADER1.1.rar.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > -sanjayt
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "mahest72" <mahest72@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dear sanjay
> > > > > > thanx for ur reply,
> > > > > > since i dont have much computer background it was bit
> > confusing,
> > > > > > ur reply cleared my doubt, outcome is we have to retain
> > > modified
> > > > > file
> > > > > > as aqd.rt for real time and retain old file in its
orginal
> > form
> > > > > just
> > > > > > adding eod to it. since there can not be 2 file with same
> > name
> > > in
> > > > > > single folder.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yes it is truly a pinch people are charging for this
simple
> > > trick
> > > > > > where as ofcourse money saved can be utelized to buy
> > amibroker
> > > or
> > > > > its
> > > > > > utelities, no doubt amibroker is good and thnx to tormaz.
i
> m
> > > > sure
> > > > > and
> > > > > > wish tormaz will be rewarded for his efforts!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > even i m thankful to hetal/kailash whu has posted file to
> > > > download
> > > > > > free RT data. i just wish if i can persnally thank him
too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with regards
> > > > > > mahesh
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanking you with Kind Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Haresh Patel
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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