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Louis,

Have you seen the instructions on the force backfill context menu 
(scroll down)

http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_rtsource.html

Also, I don't think it is a good idea to have more than 500 symbols 
in your Database.

At a guess I would say that if you have a watchlist of 500 symbols 
and do and exploration with force backfill that will setup your first 
500 active symbols - after that ones you use will come in and others 
drop out of the active list.

As I said - I am only guessing.

I am logging off for the down under night.

brian_z 

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> O.K
> 
> You did it the hard way but you did it!
> 
> You can pay extra to DTN to access 1800 at a time but you have to 
> consider the download.
> 
> 1 minute bars are equal to 60 * 6 EOD bars - this is a huge drag on 
> your computer.
> 
> Anyway, it is clear now that you want help with the DTN IQ feed on 
> how to select 500 symbols for download and how to force backfill?
> 
> There must be some IQ users around.
> 
> brian_z
> 
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Louis Préfontaine" 
> <rockprog80@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> > 
> > Yes I have DTN real-time.
> > I have over 6000 tickers; got the NASDAQ ones thanks to the UKB 
> files and
> > then I looked over the internet to get .csv and .xls files to get 
> all NYSE,
> > TSX, etc.
> > 
> > And now what I want is to be able to get the data to each and 
every 
> ticker
> > in the list.  So far I was able to do it for letter "A" by 
clicking 
> on each
> > and every ticker, but it took me like half an hour for that.  I 
was 
> looking
> > for a faster way.
> > 
> > Also, I think there is a limit of 500 for real-time; is it 
possible 
> to get
> > more real-time; else, or to actually choose the one that will be 
> real-time?
> > 
> > Thank you a lot for your help.  I really appreciated your help 
> files in the
> > UKB as well; it helped me to set the database.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Louis
> > 
> > 2008/3/15, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > >
> > >   Louis,
> > >
> > > Not sure if I can help but let's sort out your question to give 
> you a
> > > better chance of getting an answer.
> > >
> > > You are subscribed to DTN IQ Real Time ?
> > > You have set up a database as per Tomasz's DTN IQ video?
> > > You have 6000 tickers in that database (that you imported from
> > > somewhere) - where and how?
> > >
> > > brian_z
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > Préfontaine"
> > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > If I understand what you mean, there is no simple way to get 
all
> > > the data
> > > > for the 6000+ tickers in my database, except clicking on each 
> one,
> > > one by
> > > > one, and waiting for Amibroker to download the data from my
> > > provider? That
> > > > will take months!
> > > >
> > > > Anyone has any idea how to make that process faster?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Louis
> > > >
> > > > 2008/3/14, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Louis,
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is not exactly what I mean... What I would like to 
know 
> is if
> > > > > >it is
> > > > > > possible to use Amiquote to download quotes directly from 
> DTN
> > > and
> > > > > >not from
> > > > > > Yahoo.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, AQ is configured for a limited number of providers 
(free 
> and
> > > or
> > > > > cheap with some different instruments) for training and for 
> those
> > > of
> > > > > us who need/want cheap data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look in the AQ dropdown box for the available servers.
> > > > >
> > > > > > As for using the .tls files from Amiquote, I will try 
this 
> and
> > > will
> > > > > >consult
> > > > > > the UKB to see if I can do it, but I would prefer DTN (or
> > > another
> > > > > provider)
> > > > > > rather than Yahoo.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is fine.
> > > > > AB is about choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > In that case the UKB is only helpful for finding and 
importing
> > > ticker
> > > > > lists and setting up categories (if your provider doesn't 
do 
> that
> > > for
> > > > > you).
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do want to import .tls ticker lists the ASCII import 
> wizard
> > > > > can read them directly.
> > > > >
> > > > > DTN is completely separate from AmiQuote.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't help with methods for commercial providers.
> > > > > There are too many and I don't want to mess up the 
commercial
> > > > > relationship with their clients anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > brian_z
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not exactly what I mean... What I would like to 
know 
> is if
> > > > > it is
> > > > > > possible to use Amiquote to download quotes directly from 
> DTN
> > > and
> > > > > not from
> > > > > > Yahoo. That way, I would have all my quotes from the same
> > > source,
> > > > > which is
> > > > > > surely more reliable than Yahoo. Do you think it can be 
> done?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for using the .tls files from Amiquote, I will try 
this 
> and
> > > will
> > > > > consult
> > > > > > the UKB to see if I can do it, but I would prefer DTN (or
> > > another
> > > > > provider)
> > > > > > rather than Yahoo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Louis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/3/14, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Louis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now... Do you know is there is a way to set Amiquote 
to
> > > download
> > > > > > > >all the
> > > > > > > > data from my DTN IQ-Feed plugin ....... or do I have 
to
> > > manually
> > > > > > > click each of the
> > > > > > > > tickers?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think you mean: "How can I use a ticker list, from 
> AmiQuote,
> > > > > with a
> > > > > > > DTN database?".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After you download data from Yahoo, into your EOD 
> database,
> > > save
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ticker list from within AmiQuote, while it is still 
open.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can then import this list into a DTN database (use 
> ASCII
> > > > > import
> > > > > > > or watchlist import).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Between the Help Manual, Tomasz's videos and my UKB 
posts 
> I
> > > think
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > have covered examples of 80% of anything anyone could 
> want to
> > > do,
> > > > > > > regarding databases, at least for all basic tasks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't think Tomasz and I can possibly do anymore to 
> make it
> > > > > > > simpler, in that area.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only thing left to do is perhaps a couple of more 
> advanced
> > > > > > > examples (importing using script/OLE etc) - after that 
we 
> are
> > > on
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > own.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It looks like you used the US-Stocks database - we have 
> Jim to
> > > > > thank
> > > > > > > for that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > brian_z
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. I see that you wrote some of the page 
in 
> the
> > > UKB
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > I really
> > > > > > > > appreciate the step-by-step feature for downloading 
> multiple
> > > > > > > tickers.
> > > > > > > > Thanks to you, I now have over 6000 tickers in my 
> datase!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now... Do you know is there is a way to set Amiquote 
to
> > > download
> > > > > > > all the
> > > > > > > > data from my DTN IQ-Feed plugin (which works with
> > > Amibroker, but
> > > > > > > does not
> > > > > > > > seem to work with Amiquote) or do I have to manually 
> click
> > > each
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > tickers? (Which can be time-consuming...)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2008/3/13, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The posts at the UKB >> Database Management are 
> designed
> > > to
> > > > > > > give new
> > > > > > > > > users an education into the one of the core skills 
of
> > > using AB
> > > > > > > (data
> > > > > > > > > + formulas + backtesting == the core skills).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Don't underestimate the importance of understanding 
> the
> > > data
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > use.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you want that education start with the first 
post 
> in DM
> > > > > and use
> > > > > > > > > them as a workbook i.e. start with a newly 
installed 
> AB
> > > > > directory
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > walkthrough (the earlier posts are a pre-requisite 
for
> > > Setup A
> > > > > > > Custom
> > > > > > > > > Database).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (they do work - at least the last time I was there).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you don't want that education go straight to the 
> next
> > > step
> > > > > (a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > of people use providers who organize their data for 
> them
> > > and
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > don't have to 'waste' time on manual intervention 
> and/or
> > > don't
> > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > to learn that stuff).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yahoo data is a marvellous tool for free stockmarket
> > > training.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I started trading I had no prior experience, no
> > > > > programming
> > > > > > > > > experience and no trading friends - I could have 
saved
> > > myself
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > $2000 dollars that I paid in data over the first 
two 
> years
> > > > > > > because I
> > > > > > > > > wasn't good enough to trade anyway (for me there 
was 
> so
> > > much
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > learn).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Others can and do learn at a different pace to me 
> though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > brian_z
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I fear I may ask a dumb question, but I don't 
really
> > > > > understand
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > to get
> > > > > > > > > > the historical quotes from Yahoo for all the 
quotes 
> on
> > > NYSE
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > NASDAQ... I
> > > > > > > > > > looked at
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/2007/11/09/setup-
a-
> > > custom-
> > > > > > > database-
> > > > > > > > > nasdaq/
> > > > > > > > > > but it is still not too clear for me...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To Howard: at long term I will use DTN, but DTN 
is 
> 100
> > > > > $+/month
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > canadian quotes, so it is somewhow expensive for 
> now...
> > > And
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think that
> > > > > > > > > > the EOD data should be quite the same... I'm still
> > > figuring
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > I can
> > > > > > > > > > integrate intraday-EOD data in the same 
interface, 
> so
> > > right
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have an
> > > > > > > > > > EOD database with DTN and an intraday database 
with
> > > DTN. I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > only add a
> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo EOD database to the whole thing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2008/3/13, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are the yahoo history quotes free and 
reliable 
> for
> > > > > > > > > backtesting?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it is free, and deep histories too.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This is a contentious subject (AB users 
disagree 
> on
> > > this
> > > > > > > point).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some of use it for backtesting and some do use 
it 
> for
> > > > > trading.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Personal choice.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have posted on the pros and cons at the UKB 
>> 
> data
> > > >>
> > > > > Yahoo
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The best thing is to be informed from there and 
> make
> > > your
> > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > decision.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is definitely good enough to start out (for 
EOD
> > > > > trading) -
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > you start to get a couple of good systems then 
> you can
> > > > > repeat
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > tests on other data (purchased?) and see if you 
> get
> > > any
> > > > > > > > > difference.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The main point is that Yahoo can be raw or 
> dividend
> > > > > adjusted
> > > > > > > (it
> > > > > > > > > > > makes a difference) - I also have tried to 
discuss
> > > this at
> > > > > > > the UKB
> > > > > > > > > > > (not finished yet).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > brian_z
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > > > > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are the yahoo history quotes free and 
reliable 
> for
> > > > > > > backtesting?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You are right: for NASDAQ and NYSE the 
tickers 
> are
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > DTN. So I
> > > > > > > > > > > > guess your way could work?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to work with this tomorrow or this 
> week-
> > > end
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > back to
> > > > > > > > > > > > you with this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/3/13, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > An incorrect assumption on my part.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about DTN.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually the tickers are the same except for
> > > indices.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone else can probably help with DTN -
> > > apologies
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > wasting
> > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Yahoo definitely works - simple import 
> and
> > > also
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > setup
> > > > > > > > > > > > > methods I use there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people don't like Yahoo data 
though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I use it for backtesting but not live.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > brian_z
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see that the quotes used come from 
> yahoo...
> > > > > However I
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > data
> > > > > > > > > > > > > from DTN,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so the ticker name should be different. 
So 
> even
> > > if
> > > > > I can
> > > > > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tickers from yahoo, I would have to 
manually
> > > change
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > ticker
> > > > > > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > so it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can upload automatically. Is there a way 
to
> > > avoid
> > > > > this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, are you sure it is possible to get 
the
> > > quotes
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > yahoo?
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried some times ago and wasn't able to 
> do it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/3/13, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Louis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to download a LOT of
> > > tickers,e.g.
> > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > tickers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NASDAQ, or DJI? Do I have to manually 
> enter
> > > each
> > > > > > > tickers
> > > > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >other or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is there a faster and simplier way?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there is.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some posts at the UKB that 
walk 
> you
> > > > > through
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > basics.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Setup A Custom Database is the main one.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It shows you how to get ticker lists 
and 
> how
> > > to
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > AB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look under DataBase Management.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brian_z
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <amibroker%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <amibroker%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Préfontaine"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rockprog80@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to download a LOT of
> > > tickers,e.g.
> > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > tickers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NASDAQ, or DJI? Do I have to manually 
> enter
> > > each
> > > > > > > tickers
> > > > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is there a faster and simplier way?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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