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[amibroker] Re: Pattern Searching within AB



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Hi Brian_z,

Thanks for the link. I managed to get to the site this time.... :-)


Kind Regards,

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> Chorlton,
> 
> > By price action, I was referring to simply the pattern 
arrangement 
> >of 
> > price (OHLC) over a number of previous bars, maybe coupled with 
the 
> > relationship with Volume but this is the next stage. 
> 
> I think that does include the classic TA patterns but I am all for 
> taking a fresh look at older ideas - obviously you have something 
in 
> mind, or want to take a different approach.
> 
> I am quite interested in the subject and have played around trying 
to 
> find other, less well known, patterns.
> 
> My post isn't an article as such - just a couple of images as a 
> pictorial comment on Price Action.
> 
> The post is definitely there - I always test the links after I post 
> (at the top of the Recent Posts category in the right hand sidebar).
> 
> It should also be the first article at this link.
> 
> http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/category/uncategorized/
> 
> Come back if you still don't find it and I will make a tiny URL 
later 
> today.
> 
> brian_z
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "chorlton_c_hardy" <chorlton-c-
> hardy@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Brian_z,
> > 
> > By price action, I was referring to simply the pattern 
arrangement 
> >of 
> > price (OHLC) over a number of previous bars, maybe coupled with 
the 
> > relationship with Volume but this is the next stage. 
> > 
> > For me indicators are of little use for 2 reasons; (i) they are 
> > lagging and (ii) they are all derived from a combination of price 
> > and/or volume. Therefore, one might as well focus of the raw data 
> in 
> > the first place IMO.
> > 
> > Consequently, I find your comments very interesting. I tried your 
> > link but the page could not be found. Is there any possibility to 
> > repost it, as I would definately be interested in reading what 
has 
> > been posted.
> > 
> > With regard to Thomas & Pattern Exporer, I agree that the work he 
> as 
> > accomplished there is excellent and would definately be of use to 
> > Traders. 
> > 
> > For me though, I really wanted to steer clear of the tradition 
> chart 
> > patterns and instead investigate other possible repeating 
patterns 
> > based on what I have described above. 
> > 
> > 
> > Kind Regards,
> > 
> > Chorlton
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Chorlton,
> > > 
> > > > At the moment my interest is in developing Mech Systems based 
> on 
> > > > price action. 
> > >  
> > > > Consequently, what I'm looking for is something which can 
look 
> > back 
> > > > through a price chart and spot possible repeating patterns 
> (based 
> > > >on 
> > > > basic price action) which can be used as a starting point for 
> > > further 
> > > > more detailed analysis.
> > > 
> > > More as a discussion point rather than a specific answer:
> > > 
> > > I am interested in Thomas's work, say, from an academic point 
of 
> > view.
> > > 
> > > Predictive patterns are our bread and butter and since Thomas 
has 
> > > done the work I would consider it a shortcut (even if not 
> perfect) 
> > > e.g. Thomas's work would be contemporary and dynamic compared 
to, 
> > > say, Bulkowski's "Encyclopedia of Chart Patterns".
> > > Also the fact that Thomas is around to talk to us is a plus on 
> top 
> > of 
> > > that.
> > > 
> > > Specfically I would like to know what type of performance can 
be 
> > > squeezed out of the classic patterns and as I understand it 
> > Thomas's 
> > > program would allow a second choice programmer like me easy 
ways 
> to 
> > > do that.
> > > 
> > > I am not concerned if they benchmark below my own efforts - as 
a 
> > Tech 
> > > Analyst I am curios to know that kind of information.
> > > 
> > > But that is me - on to you.
> > > 
> > > I think that the classic chart patterns are 'PriceAction' - 
> perhaps 
> > > not in the way that you are thinking of.
> > > To me 'PriceAction' is price moved based on the bars (I am 
biased 
> > to 
> > > daily and below) with no indicator that use lookback periods 
(not 
> > as 
> > > a core factor anyway).
> > > 
> > > But I am open to more expansive, or detailed, definitions of 
> > > PriceAction.
> > > 
> > > I also have had an idea floating around my ideas intray for a 
> > while, 
> > > which is:
> > > 
> > > To what extent can we describe patterns in the daily bar (that 
> > > comprise several bars) by using 1-2 bar patterns in higher 
> > timeframes?
> > > 
> > > There is a temporary post at the UKB that gives a hint or two 
at 
> > > where I am going with that one (don't know how it will 
translate 
> > into 
> > > winning trades).
> > > 
> > > refer to Uncategorized >> Pattern Recognition Across TimeFrames
> > > 
> > > http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> > > 
> > > I will take the post down in a few days because I have too 
> > > many 'open' topics at the UKB already - sorry I can't do a full 
> > > exposition on the topic at the moment.
> > > 
> > > brian_z
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "chorlton_c_hardy" <chorlton-
c-
> > > hardy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Thomas,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the prompt response. I took a look at your site 
and 
> > what 
> > > > is on offer looks impressive.
> > > > 
> > > > However, I should have clarified something in my original 
post 
> as 
> > > > this is unfortunately not exactly what I'm after. 
> > > > 
> > > > At the moment my interest is in developing Mech Systems based 
> on 
> > > > price action. Even though I have plenty of ideas already 
which 
> I 
> > am 
> > > > slowly backtesting, this process takes time and obviously 
does 
> > not 
> > > > always lead to a positive or potentially profitable outcome.
> > > > 
> > > > Consequently, what I'm looking for is something which can 
look 
> > back 
> > > > through a price chart and spot possible repeating patterns 
> (based 
> > > on 
> > > > basic price action) which can be used as a starting point for 
> > > further 
> > > > more detailed analysis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Thomas Z." <tzg@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > take a look on my website: www.PatternExplorer.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > > www.PatternExplorer.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > > On Behalf
> > > > > Of chorlton_c_hardy
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:18 AM
> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Pattern Searching within AB
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is anyone aware of any methods for Pattern Searching within 
> AB? 
> > > > > By "methods" I'm referring to either dedicated code which 
has 
> > > been 
> > > > > developed or some form of 3rd party add-on.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I ask as I have recently read about some software which can 
> > > search 
> > > > for 
> > > > > potentially profitable patterns within charts and was 
> wondering 
> > > if 
> > > > > anything similar has been developed for AB?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Given the powerful and flexible nature of AFL, I just 
wanted 
> to 
> > > see 
> > > > if 
> > > > > anything is already available.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Chorlton
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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