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[amibroker] Re: PA% Upper limits - was {Absolute value ATR?---> and some hope for building a sy}


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  • Subject: [amibroker] Re: PA% Upper limits - was {Absolute value ATR?---> and some hope for building a sy}
  • From: "Ron Rowland" <rowland@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:40:25 -0000

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What house in San Jose can't be bought for $102,400,000?

$100k compounding at 100% per year for 10 years = $102 million.

start	 100,000 
1	 200,000 
2	 400,000 
3	 800,000 
4	 1,600,000 
5	 3,200,000 
6	 6,400,000 
7	 12,800,000 
8	 25,600,000 
9	 51,200,000 
10	 102,400,000 




--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> 
> >A profit of 1% per day, every trading day, grows so fast that the 
> >account balance is larger than all the real estate in the US in 
just 
> >a few years.  
> 
> Hypothetical numbers can be quoted to create a desired effect e.g. 
if 
> we put it this way, things look a lot different:
> 
> A trader starting with $100K who returns 100%PA on average, and 
> trades for 10 years, would be able to afford to buy a home in San 
> Jose Calfornia, but not the best one in the area.
> 
> Do you think many traders with that kind of performance would 
> continue to trade after 10 successful years?
> 
> brian_z
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> >
> > I draw your attention to the following article, especially item 3:
> > 
> > "Who is the most unusual trader you ever interviewed"?
> > 
> > http://www.moneybags.com.au/profile.asp?id=1363
> > 
> > Two consecutive 300%PA plus public performances from Mark Cook.
> > 
> > It is possible that he was just incredibly lucky (are we fooled 
by 
> > randomness a la Taleb)?
> > 
> > He was also incredibly lucky for a period spanning 6 years before 
> > that (trading bonds and stock indexes!)
> > 
> > Note that the period 1992-1993 when he publically achieved those 
> > results was not a particularly outstanding two years for equities.
> > 
> > brian_z
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Howard,
> > > 
> > > >Any time someone suggests a growth of more than about 40% per 
> > year, 
> > > >take that with a very large grain of salt.
> > > 
> > > I expected you to disagree with my statement.
> > > I'm sure a lot of traders would be aghast at the numbers I 
quoted 
> > as 
> > > the theoretical potential.
> > > 
> > > At his website Professor John Price posts audited returns of 
> approx 
> > > 20-25% PA over a 5 year period, or more, using simple Techno-
> > > fundamental methods (as I recall the figures).
> > > 
> > > The caveat there is that the sample period is short and 
selective.
> > > 
> > > Trading on margin that would return 30-35% PA with less than 
half 
> > an 
> > > hour a days work and no effort to use any other timing 
mechanisms.
> > > 
> > > If your statement is true we can all give up any further 
efforts 
> > and 
> > > simple trade his method.
> > > 
> > > Similarly, the ASX, which is a high dividend paying market (due 
> to 
> > > franking) has total returns of in excess of 15% PA on average 
> over 
> > > longer time periods.
> > > Using simple leveraged buy&hold strategies that is 20-25% 
without 
> > any 
> > > ongoing effort required what-so-ever.
> > > 
> > > In "Stock Market Wizards", Schwager, Jack.D, Harper Business 
2001 
> > the 
> > > first page of the first chapter in the book quotes Stuart 
Walton, 
> > > fund manager, who achieved "115 percent average annual 
compounded 
> > > return in trading profits" un 8 consecutive years during the 
> > nineties.
> > > 
> > > As I understand it Schwager's books are well researched and 
based 
> > on 
> > > verifiable case studies?
> > > 
> > > I only opened the book at the first chapter and didn't need to 
go 
> > any 
> > > further or to his other 2 books containing similar testimonies.
> > > 
> > > brian_z
> > >
> >
>




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