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Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?



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HI Howard. 
 
I didn't buy the book.  However, Torbjörn Ohrt did and was able to code some AFL from it.  His preliminary results on one stock seemed very promising, which was what perked our interests.  Check out his post from May 28.
 
chuck
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard B
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Hi Chuck --

I have visited the web site and have seen the ad for the $97 book, Short Term Swing Trading by David Graeme-Smith.  Here is the link:
http://www.shortswingtrading.com/?hop=netdoc

Does the book describe the system in sufficient detail that the AmiBroker code can be written?

There is a discussion of the book at this site:
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/showthread.php?t=10750

One of the postings is:
-------------------------------
It uses a popular technical indicator, confirmed by price action, to signal trades (using EOD charts). When the price is above a widely followed daily moving average only long trades are taken, and vice versa for short trades. Exits are determined by trailing stops. Key to the workings of the system is the selection of tradeables with the right "personality" - i.e. those exhibiting smooth trends. The package includes watchlists of UK & US stocks which fall into this category.

Experienced traders, familiar with TA, will gain little or nothing from this e-book. It would be most useful to those with little or no experience, as it is commendably easy & simple to understand & follow, with a reasonable money management strategy, and it`s cheap! So far I`ve only backtested it visually on past charts, but it appears to be a sound method for EOD swing trading.
------------------------------

Does your reading of the book agree with the poster?

If that is true, then AmiBroker code that is already available in the AmiBroker Library and among the AmiBroker User Functions would be sufficient to create a similar system, and mentioning which of those are good candidates for further exploration would not be a violation of copyright.


Thanks,
Howard

On 5/28/07, cstrader <cstrader232@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Howard.
 
The problem is that the source of the code is a $97 book.  I'm no lawyer, but I don't see why sharing ideas (in your own words), or even code that you have written, for free, based on a book that you purchased would be be protected in any way.  But then I also know that copyright laws are changing every day.
 
chuck
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard B
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Greetings all --

The results that have been posted will generate a lot of interest.  Certainly the backtest results do not violate any copyright.  But the etiquette of these lists considers backtest results without code, or at least a detailed description of the technique, as spam. 

Would someone please post a link to the document that is being used as the source for the code?  Those interested can obtain their own copy, join the appropriate discussion groups, and be free from any copyright restrictions.

Thanks,
Howard

On 5/28/07, t_ohrt <to56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dave,

I don´t think copyright is violated by sharing backtest results with
AB users? I have no intention to reveal any of my coding without
permission from the author of the system. I won´t even discuss the
nature of the system at all, sorry. But as you open my eyes to
potential legal problems I will contact the author before sharing
more results. Perhaps it´s better to follow your advise.

My involvement in this discussion originated from the suggestion from
Dr Alex Chambers, on this forum to visit the SST site. He suggested a
monthly return from the system, which exceeded my horizon. My
backtesting so far is incomplete, as I have not used the position
sizing suggested by the author, having still to read up on how this
is coded in AFL.

Ton, you have to wait a bit for the results...

T.O.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Smith" <david.smith5@xxx>


wrote:
>
> Torbjoern (& others), it sounds like a few of us have looked into
that
> method. Due to the copyright, perhaps we could discuss the afl
coding on
> the SST forum which is for members only? I have tried coding as
well, but
> there is still a lot of discretion in deciding on stocks lists
etc. I would
> like to see a more definitive method before I would even consider
trading &
> would be up for a discussion on the other forum.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Torbjörn Ohrt
> Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 7:46 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?
>
>
>
>
> Ton,
>
> Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without position
sizing, total
> equity is invested for every trade. 100000 SEK starting equity,
commission
> 99 SEK/Trade. The author recommends to risk maximum 5% of equity,
initial
> stop loss is fixed. He recommends trading only low volatility
stocks. If you
> send me a not too long list of Belgian ticker symbols (Yahoo EOD)
perhaps I
> can do a backtest....
> T.O.
> 8
>



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