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[amibroker] Re: I think the real defect of Amibroker is charting



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Hi Brian,

I think you will find that when you look at programs such as 
Ensign,Fibonacci Trader,Advanced Get,Dynamic Trader,you are really 
looking at charting programs that have a host of indictors/studies 
and chart styles ranging from the usual suspects to the esoteric.

That is the major difference.There are slight inconveniences in Ami  
such as adjusting colors for Fib Lines,Fan Lines etc.Chartists who 
look at that sort of stuff like to simply customise their tools.To 
be honest,I have no clue how to adjust retracement levels or the 
colors of the levels in Fib..Its not very intuitive.

I do know what they are referring to regarding "clarity" or 
crispness,but I couldnt define it.And quite frankly,we are talking 
about a very very subtle difference.

>From what I can tell Ami is a little short on the chart types 
READILY available,(no volume bars,PF),and the fact that one can not 
shift time frames on a chart without the chart jumping dates,or 
losing buy sell arrows is a major limitation.

But other than that,its pretty dam good

Allan




--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> A few minutes at the website doesn't equal a trial.
> 
> I will take the Ensign trial when I get a chance and have a look 
at 
> the additional studies.
> 
> BrianB2.
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <fimdot@> wrote:
> >
> > Brian:
> > 
> > If you are really interested in using charting techniques, have 
you 
> considered looking at some of the programs, including those 
mentioned 
> in previous messages, on a trial basis?
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: I think the real defect of Amibroker is 
> charting
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello Trading Humble,
> > > 
> > > I am not having a go at you or pushing any agenda; I am trying 
to 
> > > understand what the chartists want for my own reasons
> > > (if they are using charts in a way that I am not and it is 
> > > contributing to their trading success I want to know about it).
> > > 
> > > The problem is no-one can specify what it is they are after 
> > > (including screenshots).
> > > 
> > > Rakesh lists some studies; fair enough, you've definitely 
drawn 
> some 
> > > empathy from me.
> > > Without the facts, however, I can't decide either way, but I 
> assume 
> > > Tomasz must have his reasons why he didn't implement the 
> suggestions.
> > > 
> > > I read Joe's post of 03 #49871 but without a screenshot I 
can't 
> > > readily understand what he wants.
> > > 
> > > 
> 
********************************************************************
> > > 
> > > Re your points.
> > > 
> > > I am an art lover.
> > > I particularly like visionary art.
> > > If you want graphics have a look at 
> > > 
> > > http://iasos.com/artists/
> > > 
> > > but I am not looking for an art experience when I open AB.
> > > 
> > > I think it looks quite nice and it is visually pleasant while 
> working 
> > > in it.
> > > We have a choice of skins.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have had a quick look at the Ensign site and I don't agree 
that 
> the 
> > > chart quality is superior although the web page is more 
artistic.
> > > 
> > > Crispy can only be an issue of resolution or contrast.
> > > Isn't the resolution the same for most of us (depending on 
> computer 
> > > graphics card)?
> > > How can another software package have superior resolution to 
Ami?
> > > Would it show on my computer if it did?
> > > 
> > > Contrast comes down to the colours used; two adjacent lines 
look 
> > > different depending on the colours used or perspective.
> > > 
> > > How do we add perspective to 2D charts.
> > > Anyway, once again 3D is arty but seldom functional in 
software.
> > > Of course Ami does have 3D where it counts; in the optimised 
> output.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't Ami have a full colour palette the equal of other 
> software 
> > > and don't we have the option to change colour settings?
> > > 
> > > Ensign uses a lot of colour which looks *arty*, but does it 
have 
> a 
> > > function other than entertainment?
> > > 
> > > I love pink, but I am not sure about it in my candlesticks.
> > > 
> > > I don't agree that the Ensign charts look any better than 
Ami's.
> > > 
> > > It can't be in the fonts, as they are standard.
> > > Where is the difference?
> > > 
> > > Ensign appears to have some extra studies and drawing tools; 
are 
> they 
> > > what people want?
> > > 
> > > If so why not put forward a well researched and referenced 
> request 
> > > with screenshots.
> > > Advertise it here and submit it to suggestions and I am sure 
you 
> will 
> > > get a hearing.
> > > Some of the fence sitters, like me, may even join in the 
chorus 
> > > asking Tomasz to implement them.
> > > 
> > > As for ease of use; how exactly is the way we use Ami's 
drawing 
> tools 
> > > any different from other programs (point & click)?
> > > 
> > > As I said, I am looking to buy your arguments but no one has 
made 
> a 
> > > tempting offer so far.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > BrianB2.
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "tradinghumble" <sharp2be@> 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Just adding to the opinions here, I think AB is the king of 
> > >> backtesting and programming but I have to agree that it lacks 
> when 
> > >> comes to charting... and I'm not talking about indicators, 
I'm 
> > >> talking about "charting, quality, graphics, etc" ... I've 
> brought 
> > >> this issue up many times but noone seems to understand it... 
I 
> > > guess 
> > >> you have to use TradesStation or even Ensign and QT to 
> understand 
> > >> what I mean by crispy ... on the other hand, I've hard people 
> > >> comparing AB to Metastock.. now, that's silly, AB is miles 
away 
> > > from 
> > >> Metastock , 15 times better... so, in summary, if your think 
is 
> EOD 
> > >> charts and your main focus is automation, there's no better 
> place 
> > >> than AB...
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Rik Rasmussen" 
<hrasmussen@> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > You do not mention any way you find it to be inferior.
> > >> > 
> > >> > What is it about the charts that you find lacking?
> > >> > 
> > >> > Rik Rasmussen
> > >> > 
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >> > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of itmwh
> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:50 AM
> > >> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > Subject: [amibroker] I think the real defect of Amibroker 
is 
> > >> charting
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > I think amibroker as a system 
> developing/backtesting/automatic 
> > >> > > excecution software is superb, actually, in my opinion, 
best 
> in 
> > >> the 
> > >> > > market, especially considering the price. But as a new 
user 
> of 
> > >> > > Amibroker, I also found the charting proportion of 
Amibroker 
> > >> > > is not as 
> > >> > > competive as other functions.  I have some experience 
with 
> > >> > > ensign, and 
> > >> > > feel that is the best charting software. I am not a 
> > > discretionary 
> > >> > > trader, and I do not think ensign is worthy of the 
monthly 
> > >> > > subscription 
> > >> > > price, so I will stay with Amibroker , but I hope 
amibroker 
> > >> > > can improve 
> > >> > > its charting function. A improved charting 
capability ,will 
> > >> appeal to 
> > >> > > the vast majority of the retail traders and also greatly 
> > > improve 
> > >> the 
> > >> > > sales of this software, even at a higher price. Just my 
> > > personal 
> > >> > > thoughts, sorry if not correct.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users 
only.
> > > 
> > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly 
to 
> > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > 
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> > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > 
> > > For other support material please check also:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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