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[amibroker] Re: Not Compounding profits in backtester



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Graham

I don't actually want to size the trades based on equity at all.  
What I want to do is size the trades based on average turnover of 
the stock in question, so I take bigger trades in higher turnover 
stocks and smaller trades in lower turnover stocks.  I then want to 
take as many trades as I can until I have committed an amount to the 
market equivalent to my initial equity.

Even if I size trades off of initial equity, for example using a 
fixed % of initial equity risked per trade, or in other words a 
fized dollar risk per trade, the backtester will take trades until 
all the current equity is utilised.  So as time progresses the 
backtester will allow more than the initial equity to be committed 
to open trades.  The only way I can see to limit it is using 
MaxOpenPositons, but I don't want to limit the actual number of 
trades, just the total amount of dollars committed to trades.

What I was hoping was something as simple as
 SetOption("MaxDollarsInTrades",100000);

Any hints on how to do it using the custom backtester?

Regards
Brenton

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxx> wrote:
>
> Why not just size the trades based on the initial equity rather 
than current
> equity
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers
> Graham
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> On 09/01/07, brentonfx <brentonfx@xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Tomasz
> >
> > Thank you for the reply, I am very very new at the custom
> > backtester, so shall have to see if I can modify the example to
> > suit.  If anyone has actually coded the custom backtester to not
> > compound profits, would they mind sharing how to do it? Thanks.
> >
> > I thought this may have been supported simply in Amibroker by
> > setting an option somewhere that I had not managed to find.
> >
> > I think it is very important to be able to test without 
compounding
> > profits for a couple of reasons.
> >
> > Firstly, if you do compound profits, and use position sizing 
based
> > on your current equity, then trades that occur later in the 
backtest
> > have a larger weighting on the overall performance of the system
> > than those that occur earlier because they have larger position
> > sizes.  Even if position sizes are not based on current equity, 
more
> > trades can be taken later in the backtest because more equity is
> > available.  So backtest results are always influenced more my 
trades
> > that occur later in the test than by those that occur earlier.  
When
> > I test I want all trades to have equal influence on the overall
> > results regardless of when they occurred.
> >
> > Secondly, performance measures such as K-Ratio that are looking a
> > straightness of the equity curve, or Sharp Ratio looking for
> > consistency of returns, will not work correctly if profits are
> > compounded.  A compounded equity curve would ideally be 
exponential
> > in shape, not the straight line that K-Ratio is looking for.  So 
for
> > these type of measures to work correctly it is necessary to use a
> > fixed float value right through the test.
> >
> > Thirdly, in real trading, all profits can not be compounded all 
the
> > time, as there is a requirement to pay tax on profits (unless you
> > are luck enough to live in a tax free world!).
> >
> > These are just my thoughts, I would be interested to hear other
> > peoples opinions.
> >
> > Regards
> > Brenton
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Custom backtester and it is pretty easy.
> > > This example
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/kb/2006/03/06/re-balancing-open-
positions/
> > >
> > > can be easily modifed to achieve what you after.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terry" <MagicTH@>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:21 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] Not Compounding profits in backtester
> > >
> > >
> > > > Custom backtest procedure can do this...not a simple project.
> > > > --
> > > > Terry
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > > Of brentonfx
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 05:10
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Not Compounding profits in backtester
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I there a way to stop the backtester from compounding 
profits?
> > > >
> > > > I want to simulate taking out all of my profits as they are
> > earned,
> > > > and continuing to trade with only my initial equity, for 
example
> > > > $100k.  If I use fixed trade size of say $25k it's easy, I 
just
> > set
> > > > the max open positions to 4.  But I want to test a system 
that
> > uses
> > > > variable trade sizes, and if I've taken trades of less than 
$25k
> > then
> > > > I want to be able to take more than 4 trades.
> > > >
> > > > If I don't limit the max open positions, the backtester just
> > takes
> > > > more and more positions at once as the test progresses and
> > equity
> > > > grows, so my market exposure ends up being way more than the
> > $100k max
> > > > that I want to limit it to at any time.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to do this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Brenton
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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