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[amibroker] Re: Margin of Error



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I am not disagreeing on the value of OOS/WF testing in practise.
Theoretically though, if we push the boudaries, it is only a comfort 
blanket.

I will attempt to defend that position, as an interesting point, in 
my next two posts.

I would remind our younger viewers not to attempt this at home.

BrianB2.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714" 
<quanttrader714@xxx> wrote:
>
> I'd rephrase the question to, what method or methods will tell us 
how
> the system is likely to perform *when traded in real time*?  Short
> answer IMO is OOS testing and analysis.
> 
> P.S. MCS not a crystal ball or magic.  It's just a tool that uses
> brute force to estimate what is difficult or impossible to 
calculate
> otherwise and garbage in, garbage out definitely applies. 
>  
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Fred,
> > 
> > Precisely.
> > 
> > I'm not going crazy after-all!
> > 
> > What method or methods will tell us how the system is likely to 
> > perform out of sample; since in the end system trading is 
nothing 
> > but a perpetual walk forward test?
> > 
> > BrianB2.
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <ftonetti@> wrote:
> > >
> > > While MCS is a good tool for validating some things it is not 
a 
> > > substitute for out of sample and/or walk forward testing ... 
If 
> > for 
> > > example I:
> > > 
> > > - Write a system
> > > - Test it to make sure the rules are working as intended 
> > > - Optimize the variables to have the system produce the best 
> > results 
> > > it can based on some metric or metrics within the confines of 
the 
> > > rules 
> > > - Use an MCS on the trades that are generated  
> > > 
> > > This tells me nothing about how the system is likely to 
perform 
> > out 
> > > of sample.  It only tells me about the statistics related to 
the 
> > > optimized rules of the system which are the result of 
scrambling 
> > the 
> > > order of the trades that resulted from using the same in 
sample 
> > data 
> > > that system was optimized on.
> > >
>




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