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Hello Jerry and Mr Davis,

Thanks for your posts.

Statistical indicators may be something else again.
I haven't studied that subject.
I'll make a note of your points and investigate one day.
"Never waste a good lead", I always say.
If people want to spin out some info on statistical indicators that 
is fine by me.

What I am working on is a different way to evaluate system 
performance.
As a result of back-testing we obtain a range of metrics on our 
*system* e.g wins/losses, drawdown etc.
There are so many of them used in *trading culture*, some with 
questionable value.
Basically we are evaluating a data sample comprised of individual 
trades and making inferences about a larger group of trades based on 
that sample i.e the larger population of future trades.
How can we do that in the most accurate possible way?
This type of  problem is what statistics is based on except it is 
generally orientated to solving *academic* problems.
Statistics often uses coin flipping, card games and roulette as 
examples when applying statistical techniques but stockmarket 
trading seldom gets a mention.
I am looking for a writer who has applied statistical methods to the 
problem of evaluating trading systems.
Monte Carlo simulation is one example of this type of application.
I am looking for others.

Hopefully there is an author around who can take me further on the 
subject.

BrianB2.


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jerry Laster" <laster@xxx> wrote:
>
> Not really. My guess is that brian is trying to find a book on the 
use of  
> statistics applied to stock trading.
> Haven't read any books that deal with probability of trades and 
measuring  
> them. The most advanced use of statistics I know is the afore 
mentioned  
> Van Tharp book and other books that deal with money management 
(but not  
> with probabilistic outcomes for set-ups or patterns (if that's 
what brian  
> is looking for)).
> Some indicators like sigmas and linear regressions are 
statistical  
> indicators. David Elliott uses a particular formula for Bollinger 
bands  
> and transforms them into statistical indicators (stocks that break 
certain  
> levels are more likely to continue up or down trends, etc.) 
because they  
> fall outside the bell curve of non trending stocks.
> Check David Elliott stuff, I think he is trying to apply 
statistics to  
> trading, but the only book he wrote is his 1998 guide to make a 
million in  
> the crash of 2000.
> 
> jerry
> 
> 
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:36:58 -0400, mrdavis9 <mrdavis9@xxx> wrote:
> 
> > Please correct me if I am wrong, but aren't most of TJ's AFL's 
such as  
> > the
> > CCI, RSI, and STOCHASTICS, statistical indicators?   Ron D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@xxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:05 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] OT: Statistics
> >
> >
> >> Statistics for traders.
> >> Can anyone recommend a book on statistics written specifically 
for
> >> traders or that applies statistical methods to trading examples?
> >> I am looking for an author who has done a good job on the 
subject.
> >> Even if it is only a section of a book that would do provided it
> >> goes beyond a superficial treatment of the subject.
> >>
> >> For anyone interested here is a link to a very good 
introduction or
> >> refresher for statistics.
> >> The HTML *book* takes your from 0-50kph in approx 100 pages.
> >> Please note; the site does contain a lot of advertisements but 
it is
> >> also a  mini portal for stats and it does have links to free
> >> statistical stuff and free tools.
> >>
> >> Outside of writing indicators I find statistics to be one of 
the few
> >> maths disciplines that has a high degree of relevance to 
trading.
> >>
> >> http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/index.html
> >>
> >> BrianB2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> Jerry
>




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