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RE: [amibroker] Leveraged/Inverse Funds



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Yeah - I forgot you were taking that info off the docs.
 
As for the fees - they to look at is that's what the company gets for providing you with the leverage. Personally I don't look at it as if it were a "load".  Also remember that the leverage is per day and not per year so if you try to compare it on an annual basis you won't get what you expect most of the time. 
 
d


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dugas
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:04 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Leveraged/Inverse Funds

Hi D,

Re Excel, I eliminated the blank columns and resized the rest manually - you're right, that is better!  Much easier to sort too, thanks for the tip! ( I haven't done much with Excel in the past - can you tell?   8 - )

 

Re the fees - I have never owned one of these funds before, but as I understand it, you can trade between funds in the same family anytime for free, the company makes its money by charging management and other misc fees. The numbers quoted come from the prospectus - I have copied an example and pasted it below (looks like formatting is messed up though...) I am also just starting to really learn about these funds - am I not understanding it correctly? Thanks for your help, as usual!

Steve

 

Fees and Expenses of the Fund

The table below describes the fees and expenses you may pay if

you buy and hold shares of UltraMid-Cap ProFund.

Shareholder Fees (fees paid directly from your investment)

Wire Redemption Fee $10 (This charge may be waived at the discretion of ProFunds.)

Annual Fund Operating Expenses

(as a percentage of average daily net assets)

Investor

Class

(UMPIX)

Service

Class

(UMPSX)

Investment Advisory Fees 0.75% 0.75%

Distribution and Service (12b-1) Fees 0.00% 1.00%

Other Expenses* 0.74% 0.74%

Total Annual Fund Operating Expenses 1.49% 2.49%

*“Other Expenses” include fees paid for management (non-advisory) services as described under

“ProFunds Management” later in this prospectus, legal and audit fees, printing costs, registration

fees, custodial, fund accounting, administration and transfer agency fees, sub-transfer agency and

administrative services fees charged by financial services firms, costs associated with independent

trustees and certain other miscellaneous expenses.

Example: This example is intended to help you compare the cost

of investing in UltraMid-Cap ProFund with the cost of investing

in other mutual funds. The example assumes that you invest

$10,000 in the Fund for the time period indicated and then

redeem all of your shares at the end of each period. The example

also assumes that your investment has a 5% return each year and

that the Fund’s operating expenses remain the same. Although

your actual cost may be higher or lower, based on these assumptions

your cost would be:

1 Year 3 Years 5 Years 10 Years

Investor Class $152 $471 $ 813 $1,779

Service Class $252 $776 $1,326 $2,826

----- Original Message -----
From: dingo
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Leveraged/Inverse Funds

Who's charging fees on Profunds and Rydex?
 
Plus if you eliminate the blank columns within the data it will make sorting a little easier: All you would have to do is position the cursor in a cell below the heading and the do the sort.
 
d


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dugas
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:44 AM
To: Yahoo - AmiBroker
Subject: [amibroker] Leveraged/Inverse Funds

Hi All,
 
If anyone is interested in leveraged/inverse funds, here is a spreadsheet I put together yesterday with some useful info for comparing Rydex/Profunds/Direxion funds. Performance is not included because I am looking at them with an eye toward actively trading them. Info comes from most recent fact sheets/prospectus/annual reports. Sort columns in any order to compare them, but select all columns first so they sort in sync ( unless you know an easier way and then please let *me* know...   8 - )
 
Steve


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