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Re: [amibroker] Re: Tomasz: about new IB plugin



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Hello,
 
I am sorry that I over reacted here BUT.... as to
"without your prior explanation, I couldn't know whether the issue was with Amibroker or TWS"
- the point is that you would know that if you just read the docs.
 
I DID provide explanation in a release note that announced the release of the plugin see:
 
In the release note that was an integral part of announcement of new plugin 1.6.0 written March 30 I explained it in very detail
(look at the paragraph starting with
"This new plugin is an attempt to workaround a very annoying ‘feature’ in TWS API: hanging (or throttling) historical data requests (see this IB discussion, and this)"
 
I started up DevLog SPECIFICALLY to have ONE place where all new developments are described.
If you download any new release, reading the notes that accompany the release is cruicial.
I don't write those notes for myself.
 
So I am sorry that I over-reacted, but please *read* the docs and notes I post.
Imagine how much time I could spend on development if I did not spend time answer questions that are answered in the docs.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: ggoom
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Tomasz: about new IB plugin

Tomasz,

Sorry if I offended you, although I don't think my previous message
was hostile at all. I appreciated your great work a couple of times
and I said I would take the current version happily.

The reason that I left long feedback was because you asked it.
You said,

>>>> Thanks... I would appreciate reports of problems with new plugin if
>   >>>> there
>   >>>> are any,

Based on your explanation, it is apparent that you created the best
solution. And I appreciate it. But without your prior explanation, I
couldn't know whether the issue was with Amibroker or TWS, so I just
reported what I think inconvenient. Again, because you asked it!

I love your program as it is. Probably, it was my best decision last
year to move to Amibroker. I also appreciate your responses to
customers feedback including mine.

However, don't be offended or mad if customers report some problems
even if they are not your fault.

Best regards,

ggoom


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> "However, the main problem I had was not fixed. The backfilling process
> stops/stalls/throttles at the 58th symbol on the RTQ window"
>
> YES IT IS FIXED. The fix is just the behaviour you have described
few lines below:
>
> "The nice thing about this version is, if I wait then it will reconnect
> and finish the backfilling process without any further problem"
>
> This is EXACTLY THE FIX. I wrote about it in the DevLog!
>
> The fact that it stalls at 58th symbol is a PROBLEM INSIDE TWS.
>
http://www.interactivebrokers.com/discus/messages/2/33478.html?1143264444
>
> I can not FIX THINGS INSIDE TWS. Ask Interactive Brokers' programers
to fix their software.
> Actually you won't succeed because they have ADDED this "feature"
> deliberately (it did not exits in TWS versions released half a year ago)
> - to prevent people from downloadning too much / too fast.
>
> "This 3 minute waiting seems too long. Could you make it wait like 30
> second or 1 minute and then begin the reconnect to TWS? This would not
> harm any functionality, I guess. Well, if you say to me 'take or leave
> the current one' then I will take it happily, so don't get me wrong"
>
> No we can not use smaller time.
>
> TWS simply REJECTS all request sent too soon. What is WORSE - if you
request
> too soon - the time required to "reset" actually INCREASES !
> So if you request in a second you will NEVER get any response.
>
> BTW: usually TWS simply sends error 165 within 2-3 minutes which
means exactly that
> they disconnected and have ended the lock and you can reconnect
successfully then.
>
> Please show at least A BIT OF TRUST that I have checked all options
and came up with best solutions.
>
> Statements like this:
> "Could you make it wait like 30
> second or 1 minute and then begin the reconnect to TWS? This would not
> harm any functionality, I guess."
>
> suggest that I did not try that already and I came with SUB-optimal
solution.
>
> So for your information: current status quo is ABSOLUTELY THE BEST
WORKAROUND
> to the TWS behaviour and NOTHING more on earth can be done (unless
TWS fixes this on their side).
>
> I spend WHOLE day checking all timeouts, I was trying HUNDREDS of
different timeouts starting
> from 1 second to 5 minutes and statements suggesting that I did not
do my work right
> are very offending to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ggoom
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:09 AM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Tomasz: about new IB plugin
>
>
>   Tomasz,
>
>   I have tested the IB plugin 1.6.1 for the last three days and here is
>   my feedback. First of all, I would like to thank for your time and
>   effort to improve the plugin. Some of us, IB users, are heavily
>   dependent upon its performance.
>
>   This is definitely faster than the previous version and has some nice
>   features, so you'd better include this one rather than old versions
>   when you release new AmiBroker. No doubt about it.
>
>   However, the main problem I had was not fixed. The backfilling process
>   stops/stalls/throttles at the 58th symbol on the RTQ window. Sometimes
>   it is not the 58th, but mostly it is. This is not the internet delay
>   issue for sure. Either IB plugin or TWS has a problem. I would
>   appreciate if anyone including you would try this and confirm/deny my
>   experience.
>
>   The nice thing about this version is, if I wait then it will reconnect
>   and finish the backfilling process without any further problem. The
>   one thing I would like to change is the waiting time. I guess the IB
>   plugin waits about 3 minutes and then begin the reconnect process.
>   This 3 minute waiting seems too long. Could you make it wait like 30
>   second or 1 minute and then begin the reconnect to TWS? This would not
>   harm any functionality, I guess. Well, if you say to me 'take or
leave
>   the current one' then I will take it happily, so don't get me wrong.
>    
>   Another small issues is that if I select cancel backfill at any point
>   and then backfilling again the plugin will backfill all the symbols
>   including ones backfilled already. (then it will again stop/stall at
>   the same point). However, this is not a major issue, because as I said
>   I only need to wait 3 minutes now.
>
>   Thanks again for your great work.
>
>   ggoom
>
>
>   >>> ----- Original Message -----
>   >>> From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxx>
>   >>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   >>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 11:39 AM
>   >>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] New IB plugin version 1.6.0 released
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>> Thanks... I would appreciate reports of problems with new
plugin if
>   >>>> there
>   >>>> are any,
>   >>>> since I am close to the release of AB 4.80 and I would like to
>   know if
>   >>>> plugin 1.6.0
>   >>>> works better than 1.5.1 for everybody or not, so I can decide
>   which one
>   >>>> to
>   >>>> include
>   >>>> in the setup.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> Best regards,
>   >>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>   >>>> amibroker.com
>
>
>
>
>
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