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Re: [amibroker] Elders Impulse system (was Re: Swing Trading - Strategy Performance)



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Gaomfen,

The attempted optimisation could be the cause of your
problem.  I would suggest you stick to one set of
consistent parameters.

As for missing scan results, feel free to add your own
logic for buy and sell decisions in the code.  I chose
not to add that logic as results are highly dependent
upon one's settings.  In any case, I prefer to use the
indicator as a visual guide rather than an automated
system.  The exploration merely highlights stocks in a
certain state - your buy/sell decisions should be made
after considering other parameters such as
support/resistance, distance from an appropriate EMA,
etc.

Cheers,
Lal

--- gaomfen <gaomfen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


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Anyone of you had experience using Elders Imuple that
the signal 
triggered a couple of days ago but disappeared
afterwards? I tried to 
optimize the ema parameter upto two days, probably
this is the reason?
thanks for sharing.

Other than this, I still have the problem that the buy
signal is in 
exploration/scan, but,isn't in the backtest result.

Regards
Gaomfen

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ara Kaloustian"
<ara1@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Dane,
> 
> Using expand first is an aggressive way of trading
... it provides 
early signals or warnings if you prefer ... If you use
multiple 
indicators and multiple time frames I feel you would
be safe.
> 
> By multiple I don't mean you need lots of them. I
use CCI and MACD 
on 2 or 3 time frames and look at stochastics to make
sure issue is 
not in oversold or overbought area. 
> 
> In summary, I think it is well worth the risk of
early signals. The 
3x and 9x time frames I chose are quite arbitrary and
were for 
initial functionality test only.
> 
> You need to test and select the appropriate time
frames to suit 
your style.
> 
> Ara
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dane Vogel 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:15 AM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Elders Impulse system
(was Re: Swing 
Trading - Strategy Performance)
> 
> 
>   Just out of curiosity, how safe is it to build a
trading system 
that re-expands the compressed time zone with
expandFirst?  I am able 
to get incredible backtest results from this system. 
I just wonder 
if its too good to be true because it is looking into
the future?  
How does AB's backtester walk through time?  Does it
only calculate a 
point in time based on the past bars, including when
it compresses 
into another time zone?
> 
>   Thanks for any information anyone can share -
before I start 
trading real capitol I want to have a better idea if
its going to 
work for real?
> 
>   Dane
> 
>   Ara Kaloustian wrote: 
>     Code attached ... you need to change "txt"
filename suffix 
to "afl" to make
>     it work
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: "iascool" <sai20_2000@xxx>
>     To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:02 AM
>     Subject: [amibroker] Elders Impulse system (was
Re: Swing 
Trading - Strategy
>     Performance)
> 
> 
>     > HI Ara Kaloustian
>     > May I request to share the code you have
modified fo intraday
>     > Thanx
>     >
>     > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ara
Kaloustian" <ara1@> 
wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Normal.dot TemplateI modified the time frame
to 3 and 9 
times base
>     > period and that seems to work fine ... at
least at first site.
>     > >
>     > > so replace "inweekly" with "Interval(1) * 3"
etc ...
>     > >
>     > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     > >   From: J. Biran
>     > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:09 PM
>     > >   Subject: RE: [amibroker] Elders Impulse
system (was Re: 
Swing
>     > Trading - Strategy Performance)
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >   Inspecting the code I noticed it is using
Monthly time 
frame.
>     > Would it still be applicable to intraday?
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >   Joseph Biran
>     > >  
____________________________________________
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
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>     > -----------
>     > >
>     > >   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Pierre LEGRIS
>     > >   Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:34 PM
>     > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Swing Trading
- Strategy 
Performance
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >   I don't but it runs in Intraday 15 mn ; so
it can also 
Intraday
>     > I suppose.
>     > >
>     > >   Good trades
>     > >   PIERRE
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     > >   From: "Ara Kaloustian" <ara1@>
>     > >   To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:00 AM
>     > >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Swing Trading
- Strategy 
Performance
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >   > Pierre,
>     > >   >
>     > >   > Thanks for bringing up Elders Impulse
system.
>     > >   >
>     > >   > It looks very promising. Will integrate
in to my work.
>     > >   >
>     > >   > Have you tried this for daytrading also?
>     > >   >
>     > >   > Ara
>     > >   >
>     > >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>     > >   > From: "Pierre LEGRIS" <legris-pira@>
>     > >   > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >   > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:12 PM
>     > >   > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Swing
Trading - Strategy
>     > Performance
>     > >   >
>     > >   >
>     > >   >> Hi jim,
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >> Have examined you 'Elder's Impulse on
the Site 
AMIBROKER.
>     > >   >> He/it gives very interesting results.
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >> I will be delighted to have your
recommendation.
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >> Best regards,
>     > >   >> PIERRE
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >> legris-pira@
>     > >   >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>     > >   >> From: "Tim" <raven4ns@>
>     > >   >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >   >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:23
AM
>     > >   >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Swing Trading
- Strategy 
Performance
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >>
>     > >   >> > Hi Ara,
>     > >   >> > It would be interesting to hear of
anyone who is 
using a
>     > system for
>     > >   >> > swing trading and happy with the
performance. I am 
testing
>     > a system for
>     > >   >> > swing trading but haven't got any
meaningful data to
>     > report. If and
>     > >   >> > when I have made some positive
progress I will be 
happy to
>     > let you
>     > >   >> > know.
>     > >   >> >
>     > >   >> > Tim
>     > >   >> >
>     > >   >> >
>     > >   >> >
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> //File: DEV - Elders Impulse
> //From Amibroker board
> 
>
/*******************************************************************
*******
> Name            :      Elder Impulse Indicator
> Coded by      :      Lal
> Date            :      28.10.2005
> Note            :       Please refer to Elder's
"Come Into my 
Trading Room"
>                         for full details 
> 
**********************************************************************
********/
> 
> 
> // User-defined parameter for EMA periods
> EMA_prds = Param("EMA_periods", 12, 1, 30, 1);
> 
> 
> // Compute EMA and MACD Histogram
> DayEMA            = EMA(Close, EMA_prds);
> Histogram      = MACD() - Signal();
> 
> // Determine if we have an Impulse UP, DOWN or None
> Impulse_Up            =      DayEMA > Ref(DayEMA,
-1) AND 
Histogram > Ref(Histogram, -1);
> Impulse_Down      =      DayEMA < Ref(DayEMA, -1)
AND Histogram < 
Ref(Histogram, -1);   
> Impulse_None      =      (NOT Impulse_UP) AND (NOT
Impulse_Down);
> 
> // Compute Weekly MACD and determine whether rising
or falling
> // Note: uses "non-standard"  parameters!
> TF2 = 3;
> TF3 = 9;
> TimeFrameSet(Interval(1)*TF2);
> MACD_val      =      MACD(5, 8);
> Signal_val      =      Signal(5, 8, 5);
> Hist_in_w      =      MACD_val - Signal_val;
> 
> wh_rising       = Hist_in_w > Ref(Hist_in_w, -1);
> wh_falling       = Hist_in_w < Ref(Hist_in_w, -1);
> 
> TimeFrameRestore();
> 
> // Now get Monthly MACD Histogram....
> TimeFrameSet(Interval(1)*TF3);
> MACD_val            =      MACD(5, 8);
> Signal_val            =      Signal(5, 8, 5);
> Hist_in_m            =      MACD_val - Signal_val;
> 
> mh_rising = Hist_in_m > Ref(Hist_in_m, -1);
> mh_falling = Hist_in_m < Ref(Hist_in_m, -1);
> 
> TimeFrameRestore();
> 
> wh_rising       = TimeFrameExpand(
wh_rising,Interval(1)
*TF2,expandFirst ); 
> wh_falling       = TimeFrameExpand(
wh_falling,Interval(1)
*TF2,expandFirst  ); 
> mh_rising       = TimeFrameExpand(mh_rising,
Interval(1)
*TF3,expandFirst );
> mh_falling       = TimeFrameExpand(mh_falling,
Interval(1)
*TF3,expandFirst ); 
> //
> /*
> //Original code
> wh_rising       = TimeFrameExpand( wh_rising, 
inWeekly,expandLast ); 
> wh_falling       = TimeFrameExpand( wh_falling, 
inWeekly,expandLast  ); 
> mh_rising       = TimeFrameExpand(mh_rising, 
inMonthly,expandLast );
> mh_falling       = TimeFrameExpand(mh_falling, 
inMonthly,expandLast ); 
> //
> */
> kol       = IIf( wh_rising, colorGreen, 
IIf(wh_falling, colorRed,
> colorLightGrey));
> mkol       = IIf( mh_rising, colorBlue, 
IIf(mh_falling, colorYellow,
> colorLightGrey));
> 
> // Plot them all!
> Plot(Close, "Close", colorTeal, styleBar);
> PlotShapes(shapeUpArrow * Impulse_Up, colorBlue, 0,
Low, -12);
> PlotShapes(shapeDownArrow * Impulse_Down, colorRed,
0, High, -12);
> PlotShapes(shapeSmallCircle * Impulse_None,
colorWhite, 0, High, 5);
> Plot(10, "ribbon", kol,
styleOwnScale|styleArea|styleNoLabel, -12, 
156);      //
> //Weekly trend
> Plot(10, "ribbon", mkol,
styleOwnScale|styleArea|styleNoLabel, -
0.5, 150);      //
> //Monthly Trend
> 
> Title = "Elders Impulse - RT";
> 
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