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> They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
> This is the place where they are created by default.
> All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
> in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.

Tomasz, I never MOVED any afl files in Windows Explorer (only 
deleted). I'm quite sure these files were in the AFL folder from 
before the ChartTree/Drag&Drop feature was introduced and they simply 
stayed there.
 
> The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
preferences.
 
Yes I've seen that, but in order to keep the "shipped" formulas it 
would seem more appropriate to have a one-time operation of moving 
everything from AFL to Formulas folder. This however will probably 
lead to "File cannot be found" messages... ?

It's kind of strange, am I the only one with indicators in the "old" 
AFL folder? In any case, what would you advise ?

-treliff

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> 
wrote:
> They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
> This is the place where they are created by default.
> 
> All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
> in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
> 
> The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
preferences.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:10 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in 
saved Layouts. Help!
> 
> 
> > hmmm.. this is all so mouse-based, I'm a keyboarder :-)
> > 
> >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT MOUSE 
> > BUTTON.
> > 
> > DRAG it... from where?
> > All my custom indicators are in the AFL folder. I don't see how I 
can 
> > move them to the Formulas folder so they will show up in the 
chart 
> > tree.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
<amibroker@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  I 
use 
> > the 
> >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
from 
> >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
> >> 
> >> I wrote you already.
> >> Use Delete from Chart tree
> >> http://www.amibroker.com/guide/m_formulacontext.html
> >> 
> >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, like 
from 
> > the 
> >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to the 
> >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use Drag&Drop
> >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
> >> 
> >> NO!
> >> Do NOT use windows explorer for manipulating formula files.
> >> 
> >> ALWAYS Use CHART TREE - this is specialized "explorer" where
> >> all formula operations should be performed, including:
> >> - creation
> >> - deletion
> >> - moving
> >> - renaming
> >> 
> >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT MOUSE 
> > BUTTON.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:38 PM
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes 
in 
> > saved Layouts. Help!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > That worked! All set now. A related question if I may: 
> >> > 
> >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  I 
use 
> > the 
> >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
from 
> >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
> >> > 
> >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, like 
from 
> > the 
> >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to the 
> >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use Drag&Drop
> >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
> > <amibroker@xxxx> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> 
> >> >> Please tell me who instructed you to remove all those layout 
> > files?
> >> >> Now the only resolution is to run setup program ("upgrade 
> > version")
> >> >> from
> >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker470up.exe
> >> >> (and eventually apply latest beta if you are using one)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Setup will produce formula files for "default charts".
> >> >> 
> >> >> If this won't help you would need to delete (or better rename)
> >> >> broker.newcharts file and run setup again.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> >> amibroker.com
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:24 PM
> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart 
panes 
> > in 
> >> > saved Layouts. Help!
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > OK Tomasz, I screwed up big time. Learned my lesson. But 
> >> > meanwhile 
> >> >> > I'm screwed. This is the situation now:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I checked out any black panes referring to files that "do 
not
> >> >> > exist", traced their .afl file names and either moved these 
> > files 
> >> >> > back to their original locations or created dummy files 
under 
> > the 
> >> >> > same name. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > ** I then removed ALL layout files (NOT folders) including 
> >> > the .awl 
> >> >> > files from the Layout subfolder in the database folder ** 
(did 
> >> > back'm 
> >> >> > up)
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Re-opened AB to find the default Layout (MACD etc.) but a 
> >> > hopeless 
> >> >> > situation: 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Any, ANY chart pane applied, including Basic charts like 
> > Price, 
> >> > after 
> >> >> > closing and re-opening AB, turn up as black panes with 
(when 
> >> >> > Ctrl+E`d) this message (literally) :
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > File does not exist:
> >> >> > "
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > No more reference to any specific file but just one "-
sign.  
> >> >> > Desperately out of options.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > TJ, please hit me hard... and then help me out.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > -treliff
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
> >> > <amibroker@xxxx> 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> You must NOT delete afl files manually from Windows 
Explorer.
> >> >> >> Please use CHART TREE right click to delete any afl files.
> >> >> >> Doing so you are giving AmiBroker a chance to check if 
file 
> > is 
> >> > in 
> >> >> > use.
> >> >> >> If you use Explorer instead - it just deletes the file and 
> > does 
> >> > not 
> >> >> > care
> >> >> >> about it.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> And for the panes: they are NOT miswired. Remember that if
> >> >> >> you use "Insert LINKED" - then more than one pane SHARES 
the 
> > same
> >> >> >> file. So please use ordinary INSERT as this way separate 
> > copies
> >> >> >> are created and they are independent.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> As for panes that are now black - simply close them.
> >> >> >> Then re-insert indicators that were there (if you need 
them).
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> >> >> amibroker.com
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
> >> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:17 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Ongoing problem with black chart 
panes 
> > in 
> >> >> > saved Layouts. Help!
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > This problem probably started when I manually deleted 
> > an .afl 
> >> >> > file 
> >> >> >> > that was part of the chart Layout. However it should 
long 
> > have 
> >> >> > been 
> >> >> >> > solved since I closed the black pane (one that 
> > mentions "File
> >> >> >> > does not exist" when right clicking) and replaced it 
with 
> > an 
> >> >> >> > existing .afl file (pane).
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I saved it as a new Local Layout, saved the Database, 
> > closed 
> >> > and 
> >> >> > re-
> >> >> >> > opened etc. etc. The problem only increases: since I 
added 
> > two 
> >> >> > more 
> >> >> >> > (existing file) chart panes, when I open the Database I 
> > have 3 
> >> >> > (!) 
> >> >> >> > black panes instead of one. The whole thing seems 
> > completely 
> >> >> >> > miswired now.  
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I used notepad to open the default.awl file in "Layouts" 
> >> >> > subfolder 
> >> >> >> > inside database folder but have no clue if and how to 
work 
> > in 
> >> >> > this. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Is there any way to force this problem out without 
creating 
> > a 
> >> > new 
> >> >> >> > database from scratch? Thanks!
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > -treliff
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