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Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea



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Dingo, I do get tired of seeing the same questions over and over,
mostly just when one was answered and within 2 hours get the same
query.
I was feeling like a devil's advocate and could see a great start fizzle.


Be very clear on the goals of the content of wiki
Best keep this to just "How-to" use AB, not how to trade as in "Chart
Pattern Recognition". We have the AFL library for trading systems and
completed AFL.



On 7/3/05, dingo <dingo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> well, since Joe L posted that part I'll let him explain.  BUT it does
> illustrate how "interesting" this is going to be.
>  
> d
> 
> ________________________________
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dan Clark
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:18 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dingo,
> 
>  
> 
> Point taken.   I agree with your position.  
> 
>  
> 
> I just want a definition of the "Chart Pattern Recognition" category.  Is it
> to record information about the patterns themselves or to record AFL to scan
> for the patterns?  
> 
>  
> 
> Both are valid, IMO.  It's just that we need to have clear definitions of
> what should and should not be in each category.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Dan.
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of dingo
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
>  
> 
> the basic goal (imho)  is to have a "place" where anyone can post a
> "relevant" entry that can be used to seek knowledge on a subject.   
> 
>  
> 
> As far as a pure discussion - I don't think that it would be the correct
> place for that.   This forum would be more appropriate. If we allow
> discussions on the wiki then its usefulness as a FAQ / Snippets respository
> will be compromised.
> 
>  
> 
> d
> 
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dan Clark
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:41 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> Comments below + one question…
> 
>  
> 
> Does the "Chart Pattern Recognition" section refer to a discussion of the
> strategy or of how to create an AFL script to recognize the pattern?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Dan.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Joe Landry
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:25 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
> From: dingo 
> 
> 
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:12 PM
> 
> 
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> 
>  
> 
> just post them here - its too early imho to post on wiki till we get
> organizediki.
> 
>  
> 
> I had been thinking along the lines of:
> 
>  
> 
> Databases
> 
>      |------------------ Creating
> 
>      |------------------ Copying
> 
>      |------------------ Vendor-Specific Issues & Processes
> 
>      |                      |---- eSignal
> 
>      |                      |---- TeleChart
> 
>      |                      …
> 
>      .
> 
>      .
> 
>  Backtesting
> 
>      |------------------ Afl
> 
>      |                    |----- Buy/Sell/Short/Cover
> 
>      |                    .
> 
>      |                    .
> 
>      |------------------ Stops
> 
>      
> 
>   Composites(add to)
> 
>      |-----------------| 
> 
>      .
> 
>    Averages
> 
>      |----------------- Family (watchlists)
> 
>  
> 
>   MPT & Metrics (alpha, beta, sharpe, UI, UPI, RelStdev)
> 
>  
> 
>   Charting
> 
>       |----------------- blah
> 
>       |----------------- blah
> 
>  
> 
>  Scoring 
> 
>    |------------------- RSQP
> 
>    |--------------------Beaten down stocks
> 
>    |--------------------
> 
>   
> 
> Chart Pattern Recognition
> 
>    |--------------------Break Outs - Resistance
> 
>    |--------------------------------------Turtle Break outs
> 
>    |-------------------------------------- Kamish Bullish
> Bearish
> 
>    |-------------------------------------- Channels and
> Wedges
> 
>    |---------------------------------------RSI Trendlines
> and Wedges
> 
>    |---------------------------------------Channel
> Breakouts
> 
>    |---------------------------------------CCI
> 
>    |---------------------Pivot Point
> 
>    |---------------------Cup and Handle
> 
>    |---------------------
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> d
> 
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Ken Close
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:56 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> Thanks, Joe/Dale...
> 
>  
> 
> I just spent 15 minutes looking at some of the main and preliminary
> editing/organizing tools and syntax for wike.  I had never before attempted
> an entry although I have used wikipedia numerous times.  As someone said, it
> is not so simple.  I will attempt a start, not on the outline I have but on
> some simple headlines as a beginning of an organization.  I also was
> thinking that a thorough FAQ might be a good way to start and more simple
> from a beginning standpoint.  It does not look as easy as I thought it would
> be.
> 
>  
> 
> Hmmmm......
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Joe Landry
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:13 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> 
> Hi Ken - I agree with you and  I'd like to see your outline. I'd contribute
> topics where I can and 
> 
> 
> would start organizing the material on my part. 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> JOE   
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
> From: Ken Close 
> 
> 
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:12 AM
> 
> 
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> 
>  
> 
> A key thing is that no ONE person makes contributions.  Lots of folks write
> or edit material or both.  The more people who contribute even a small
> amount of learning or teaching about something they have done, the more the
> reference work will grow.  Further, people will only write about the things
> that interest them, so the content grows accordingly...initially with big
> gaps and perhaps not a lot of organization, but eventually growing into a
> valuable work.
> 
>  
> 
> A couple of us had compiled some outlines of things needed to learn about
> AB. This was done over a year ago and is thus somewhat out of date. 
> Nonetheless, this could be an organizational starting point and I could dust
> off these old outlines and see what it would take to turn some of them into
> Wiki pages---but it would be nice to see some positive suction, hopeful
> comments, and an indication that some folks would contribute some original
> content.  Think about Herman's tutorial from way back, on AddtoComposites. 
> Effort like that is the kind of contribution that would make a wonderful,
> information-rich AB Wiki.  
> 
>  
> 
> Ken
> 
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Graham
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:15 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> 
> I guess the big question, Who is going to volunteer to do all this
> work on the wiki site???
> There is already facility to add comments to the online AFL functions
> that is clearly not fully utilised as it takes someone actually
> writing something to add. We cannot expect TJ to do all this work and
> keep AB moving forward.
> No point running around getting things planned if nobody plans to do
> the effort of entering to the site.
> If you plan to have everyone write and add their own thing, then
> forget organising unless someone is prepared to do the organising.
> 
> It all sounds good, but so far very few people have ever come forward
> to do the work, and then continue to do so for long time to come.
> 
> Yes I am negative about it, It is good idea............. but.
> 
> On 7/2/05, Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >  
> > There are lots of well-organized and well-written wikis out there. The
> > largest is probably Wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org
> > It uses exactly the same engine as the one I have set up on amibroker.org
> > server
> >  
> > And yes - you have to 'register' in order to edit, but registration
> involves
> > just creating a name and password (2 second work :-))
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: dingo 
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > 
> > Before any of us give up and slink back into our holes - we need to think
> > about organization.  If anyone has a link to a well organized wiki thingi
> > then it would be great to see how its done.  Then we need to discuss how
> to
> > organize it.   Once that's done then we can set up a "structure" and start
> > filling it in.
> >  
> > TJ - if you're reading this - is it "public" or do you have to register to
> > post?  I already registered but don't know if that was necessary.  Do you
> > have any wiki sities  that you can point us to?
> >  
> > d
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of original_nightstalker
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:07 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > 
> > 
> > OK, OK - it didn't turn out quite the way it looks in my InfoSelect. It's
> > much
> > easier to follow in IS. So I've deleted it from the Wiki page. But it was
> > well-intentioned - it's a thread from this very forum on how to set up
> > databases for multiple markets in Ami, which is something that many find
> > tricky
> > and confusing. Tomasz gave an excellent explanation in the last post of
> the
> > thread. The first couple of posts were for context, as Tomasz's post
> answers
> > points raised in the previous ones.
> > 
> > So if somebody can tell me and everyone else how to use the Wiki thingy so
> > that
> > it looks like a polished page, and preferably indexed, then perhaps the
> > thread
> > would be worth re-posting there. I tried to make sense of the Wiki Manual,
> > but
> > a lot of it was gobbledegook to a non-programmer like me, and it would
> have
> > to
> > be one of the most user-UNfriendly 'manuals' I have ever encountered. I
> > could
> > not make sense out of it at all.
> > 
> > I have no idea about writing web pages or using HTML - I hope that's not
> > required to use the Wiki thing - but I get the impression from the manual
> > that it may be.  In which case, I suspect many of us in here would be left
> > behind...  Ah well, I still have my InfoSelect database :)
> > 
> > Regards,  NightStalker
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, dan_public@xxxx wrote:
> > > Dingo,
> > > 
> > > I took a look too.   Yes, it may be a mess.  OTOH...
> > > 
> > > If I understand the purpose (and I'm not sure I do), a WikiWiki site can
> > be made into what we want it to be.  Let's give it a chance.  Add content
> > and see what it turns out to be.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Dan. 
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > 
> > > Well, 
> > > 
> > > after looking this over for a few minutes - I fear that it might be too
> > complicated for our user base as a whole.
> > > 
> > > If we have people just paste email threads into the site (this has
> already
> > happened) then it will be worse than purebytes.
> > > 
> > > I fear this is gonna be a mess.
> > > 
> > > d
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:18 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have set-up Wiki page at:
> > > http://www.amibroker.org/wiki/
> > > 
> > > as a tool for this collaborative documentation project.
> > > 
> > > For those of you who do not know what is Wiki, here is a page from
> > Wikipedia (Wiki-based free Encyclopedia):
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: dingo 
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:11 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > > 
> > > 
> > > That would be nice if we can get this off the ground.
> > > 
> > > As to publishing others work:  If it was posted on a forum then I think
> it
> > would be ok (if anyone disagrees now's the time to speak up). I DO think
> we
> > should post the date and author just the be courteous.
> > > 
> > > d
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Joe Landry
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:45 AM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ALL: 
> > > I'm interested and while no expert I have a collection of snippets that
> > I've filed on my Infoselect database over the past 2 years and would be
> > happy to clip and paste those in with some editing/categorizing, for
> example
> > as Graham just wrote "how to plot arrows" or how to draw a signal "ribbon"
> > etc. some very simple stuff keeps getting asked.  I forget how to compose
> > them and have to clip, paste and modify. 
> > > 
> > > FWIW
> > > There are others on this board who use Infoselect and other databases to
> > do exactly that, to keep a store of AFL snippets that can be searched down
> > to the letter.  Most of these snippets are not my original thought and
> > borrowed from the board.  Somehow searching Purebytes is not nearly as
> > productive as creating your own store.  
> > > 
> > > Then there are others who've moved on but who left quite a legacy of
> tight
> > algorithms and indicators. 
> > > 
> > > I can contribute a low level of jScript automation -  the running
> nightly
> > jobs as I call them - to create composties,  I'd be interested in moving
> to
> > the next level in jScripts as well as some realtime
> > monitoring/alerts/indicators.
> > > 
> > > Be glad to be a contributor of what I have. I'm sensitive about
> publishing
> > others' work and some of the best would be coming from others. 
> > > 
> > > JOE 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: dingo 
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:54 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No there isn't - except for the stuff I've done for the PBI Collected
> > Documentation at
> >
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker-beta/files/
> > > 
> > > There have been several attempts to do such a thing but the interest
> level
> > is 0 to build it - but very high to have access to one. But then there are
> > those that are too lazy to read anything and therefore will just post a
> > question anyway and someone far more patient than most of us (good old
> > Graham for instance) will answer that question that's been asked and
> > answered 100's of times.
> > > 
> > > TJ offered to set up a WikiWiki for the OLE group several months ago (no
> > other folks were interested so it died). Maybe he or you could set one up.
> > If so that would allow a "community" effort (Looks like maybe you and me
> at
> > this point).
> > > 
> > > I'll help but due to the lack of response of a couple of other attempts
> I
> > won't lead it.
> > > 
> > > d
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Prosser, Daniel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:59 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > From: Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: Daytrade System - Close open Positions at Close
> > > >
> > > > actually this question has been answered before a few times in this
> > > group
> > > >
> > > > sell = cross( timenum(), 155959 ); //assuming 4pm is close time
> > > 
> > > Is there an FAQ document maintained for this group?  It seems to me it
> > > would be *very* useful for this particular group.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps a "SNIPPETS" style FAQ where snippets of code are kept with
> > > common "How do I...?" questions in one large (indexed) document.  Such
> > > as the question above...
> > > 
> > > I would certainly take a look at this file before asking my stupid
> > > questions :-) It may help cut back on some common questions and help
> > > educate new users faster.  It could even be put into the help files of
> > > AmiBroker for each major release.
> > > 
> > > The online AFL Library and purebytes.com archives don't really suit this
> > > purpose I am finding.
> > > 
> > > Any volunteers? ;)
> > > 
> > > Dan.
> > > 
> > > p.s., in case you don't know - SNIPPETS was a project whose goal was to
> > > "collect and disseminate the best C/C++ answers to 'How do I...?'
> > > programming questions" (started in the old FidoNet BBS days if I
> > > remember correctly - gee I must be getting old...)
> > > 
> > > http://snippets.snippets.org/index.php#PREFACE
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