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Thanks for sharing this.  I like the conclusion there by Mr. James S. 
Chanos:

"First and foremost, no one should depend on Wall Street to identify 
and extricate investors from disastrous financial situations. There 
are too many conflicts of interest, all of them usually disclosed, 
but pervasive and important nevertheless. In addition, outside 
auditors are archeologists, not detectives. I can't think of one 
major financial fraud in the United States in the last ten years that 
was uncovered by a major brokerage house analyst or an outside 
accounting firm. Almost every such fraud ultimately was unmasked by 
short sellers and/or financial journalists."

I rest my case.

rgds, Pal

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Franco Gornati <francogornati@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Well .. should be said that Enron was the big short of Jim Chanos 
just on
> the merit of its fundamentals but his analysis was not the of kind 
that
> can be systemized or backtested and sure one that needs a high 
level of
> expertise.
> Here's his testimony to the Full Committee on Energy and Commerce
> 
http://energycommerce.house.gov/107/hearings/02062002Hearing483/Chanos
782.htm
> 
> -Franco
> 
> ----- Original Message ---------------
> 
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Technical Vs technofundamental trading
>    From: "duke.jones" <Duke.Jones@xxxx>
>    Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:38:47
>      To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>           amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> >
> >Have to agree with Fred here...by the time the fundamentals turned 
the stock was in the teens. Here is a little history.  
http://208.149.108.73/pubfiles/enecollapse.pdf
> >
> >Duke Jones, CMT
> >
> >-------Original Message-------
> >> From: "Fred" <ftonetti@xxxx>
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Technical Vs technofundamental trading
> >> Sent: 07 Feb 2005 22:31:13
> >>
> >>  Price action in Enron was more than enough to tell one where 
Enron
> >>  was going or at least that one didn't wnat to be long in it way
> >>  before in serious price trouble.  The fundamentals lagged in 
that
> >>  case simply because they weren't being accurately reported but 
in any
> >>  case fundamentals lag.  One can certainly use general market 
prices
> >>  as an indicator of where the economy is going but it doesn't 
work the
> >>  other way around.
> >>  
> >>  --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Pal Anand"  wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  > Hi,
> >>  >
> >>  > I agree with what was said in another forum by another 
member, that
> >>  > if people had followed the proper fundamental criteria 
(inaddition
> >>  to
> >>  > technical criteria), they wouldn't have bought Enron and many 
other
> >>  > financial basket cases.
> >>  >
> >>  > rgds, Pal
> >>  >
> >>  > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Claude Caruana"
> >>  >  wrote:
> >>  > > Hi all,
> >>  > >
> >>  > > I am an Amibroker user for a few weeks now and I must say 
it is
> >>  > about to
> >>  > > turn my trading method 180%.
> >>  > >
> >>  > > I initially purchased Amibroker to be able to generate 
optimal
> >>  > signals for a
> >>  > > watchlist of around 100 stocks which I have selected for 
their
> >>  > fundumentals,
> >>  > > however I am finding that my results work much better and 
more
> >>  > consistently
> >>  > > on the entire stock universe (The 7000 tickers I have 
loaded in
> >>  my
> >>  > db) than
> >>  > > if I try running it on any watchlists containing less that 
200
> >>  > tickers.
> >>  > >
> >>  > > I find that, in general, the most reliable entry signals 
occur
> >>  very
> >>  > > infrequently, and hence, signals are too few and far apart 
to
> >>  create
> >>  > > consistent results when the basis is my 100 stock 
watchlist. If I
> >>  > try to
> >>  > > "loosen the parameters" and get an optimal number of 
signals for
> >>  my
> >>  > 100
> >>  > > stocks, then the system will not be as reliable as the one
> >>  > with "tighter
> >>  > > parameters" scanning the entire stock universe.
> >>  > >
> >>  > > Before I ditch my fundumental approach (which quite franky 
has
> >>  yet
> >>  > to give
> >>  > > me positve results!) altogether and start using a technical-
only
> >>  > system, I
> >>  > > would be very grateful if anybody could confirm whether my
> >>  > observation about
> >>  > > entry signals is normal, or whether I am missing something.
> >>  > Finally, are
> >>  > > there any of you out there who trade using technicals only?
> >>  > >
> >>  > > thanks for any feedback!
> >>  > >
> >>  > > Claude
> >>  
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> >
> >
> >
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