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Re: [amibroker] What about life-long license? (Re: Weak dollar - rise in selling prices)



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Your point of view is very valuable imho. Amibroker has become a remarkable 
product, but remains in the one-man category. This is a significant risk. 
The associated cost should taken into account when speaking about the price 
of an investment software. There are also benefits however : responsiveness, 
flexibility, brilliant & continuous software improvements, etc, .... ie 
Amibroker is really outstanding in the risky category.

Btw I am confident that most people do realize that the crashing USD is 
generally causing a lot of problems to the EU economy, and that TJ in 
particular is not rewarded correctly for his job anymore.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ed nl" <ed2000nl@xxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] What about life-long license? (Re: Weak dollar - 
rise in selling prices)


>
> just giving my point of view and my opinion and I hope I was clear and I 
> do not wish to offend anybody, still ..... I think DT's reaction is 
> rediculous. Like it is not appropriate to consider possible scenarios. A 
> lifetime license isn't of much use if nobody will write the upgrades. 
> Clearly somebody doesn't understand that this program will need continues 
> maintenance for it to stay functioning. If eSignal decides to make a small 
> change in their code Amibroker will have to react. Do I hurt people by 
> considering this?? I do not understand.
>
> rgds, Ed
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Tomasz Janeczko
>  To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:18 PM
>  Subject: Re: [amibroker] What about life-long license? (Re: Weak dollar - 
> rise in selling prices)
>
>
>
>  Hello,
>
>  I would like to remind you that using the software that has big company 
> behind it does NOT guarantee
>  that your investment in learning will not be wasted.
>  Great example is Omega Research/TradeStation which sold hundreds 
> thousands of copies of Supercharts
>  and then went to brokerage firm leaving all old users of Supercharts 
> without support and without upgrades.
>
>  Big companies change its "business model" quite often.
>
>  Best regards,
>  Tomasz Janeczko
>  amibroker.com
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "ed nl" <ed2000nl@xxxxxxx>
>  To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:28 AM
>  Subject: Re: [amibroker] What about life-long license? (Re: Weak dollar - 
> rise in selling prices)
>
>
>  >
>  > hi,
>  >
>  > I think the low price of Amibroker is also reflects the risk for the 
> user.  Amibroker stands with it's creator and therefor can
>  > also fall if it's creator falls.  Heaven forbid but if TJ is run over 
> by a bus it makes years of investments into the AFL language
>  > useless for it's current users. You will have to find another program 
> when that happens because soon you will not be able to link
>  > the program to QP2, eSignal etc anymore.
>  >
>  > So even though Amibroker might be superior to other similar programs 
> (which of I can't make a judgement) the risk for the user is
>  > also higher. Also in comparison with Mathlab or IDL (which I know): it 
> would be fantastic to have all this functionality, working
>  > with multiple dimensional arrays and multple arrays functions (for 
> starters) but AFL is still way behind these type of languages
>  > and it will take years and years to catch up in my opinion (even with a 
> team working on it).
>  >
>  > This doesn't mean I do not agree with the price increase, because I do 
> agree. But I understand that this program does not cost
>  > $3000 yet.
>  >
>  > rgds, Ed
>  >
>  >
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: vlanschot
>  >  To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:57 AM
>  >  Subject: [amibroker] What about life-long license? (Re: Weak dollar - 
> rise in selling prices)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Hi Tomasz,
>  >
>  >  You're too modest. AB is still WAY underpriced for what it offers,
>  >  specifically if you "discount the future", as investors should do.
>  >  With the upcoming upgrades of the (portfolio) backtester, in
>  >  particular the functionality to apply dynamic money-management/asset
>  >  allocation/multiple-currency handling, I personally have the fullest
>  >  confidence in AB's future. Therefore: is there an option to pay a one-
>  >  time life-long license?
>  >
>  >  For new/existing users:
>  >
>  >  In general, and for what it's worth, I do not compare AB with
>  >  TradeStation, Metastock, or WealthLab. It seems to me that such a
>  >  comparisson is like looking in the mirror to see how far behind they
>  >  are, knowing very well that it is highly unlikely they will catch up.
>  >
>  >  Instead, we should all look forward and make comparisons to packages
>  >  like KxSystems, FinMetrics (S-plus), EXPO, MathLab, MathCad, etc.
>  >  These are the type of applications which make highly advanced
>  >  charting/trading systems possible, and they can (and should) provide
>  >  the inspiration for Tomasz.
>  >
>  >  In other words, the future is bright and lies ahead. Look there for
>  >  ideas/suggestions to Tomasz, and forget the mirror.
>  >
>  >  PS
>  >
>  >  --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
>  >  wrote:
>  >  > Hello,
>  >  >
>  >  > Due to very weak dollar nowadays
>  >  > (dollar felt down -21% against my local currency since June 2004,
>  >  > and more than -11% against euro)
>  >  > I will be probably forced to rise the prices for
>  >  > AmiBroker Standard from $129 to $149
>  >  > and
>  >  > AmiBroker Professional from $199 to $229
>  >  >
>  >  > The date of price change is not yet established but I am giving
>  >  > advance information for those who are trialing AmiBroker now
>  >  > to make up his/her mind within 2-3 weeks to make sure they pay
>  >  > current (lower) price.
>  >  >
>  >  > Best regards,
>  >  > Tomasz Janeczko
>  >  > amibroker.com
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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