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Al,
 
Applystops, and I am thinking to stoploss and 
trailingstop modes, are perfect if the amount is written in 
point.
for example
ApplyStop 
(stopTypeTrailing, stopModePoint, 
2*ATR(10),exitatstop=True,volatile=False,reentrydelay=1) ;
you can check the trailing at 
Plot(HighestSince(Buy, H - 
ValueWhen(Buy,2*ATR(10))),"",colorBlue,1);
OR for baktesting futures <FONT 
color=#0000ff>
ApplyStop 
(stopTypeTrailing, stopModePoint, 20, 
exitatstop=True,volatile=False,reentrydelay=<FONT 
color=#ff00ff>1) ;
you can check the trailing at 
<FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2>Plot(HighestSince(Buy, H 
- ValueWhen(Buy,TrailStop)),"Trailing",colorGreen,1<FONT 
size=1>);
 
But when you want the stop level was 
at Ref(Low,-1)  OR  C-2*atr(10)  OR  Open-30 
points,
<FONT 
face=Arial>you must scratch your head to set the correct amount, is it 
from Buyprice? or from High?
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suppose it is from high...
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HighestSince(Buy,Ref(<FONT 
color=#0000ff>HIGH,-1) - 2*ATR(10))  OR <FONT color=#008000 
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HighestSince(Buy,Ref(<FONT 
color=#0000ff>LOW,-1) - 2*ATR(10))
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Venosa" <<A 
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To: <<A 
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: ApplyStop() in 
RT
<FONT face=Arial 
size=2>> Stephane:> > What is it about ApplyStop function you 
don't like ApplyStop?> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephane Carrasset" <<A 
href=""><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>s.carrasset@xxxxxxxxxxx>> 
To: <<FONT face=Arial 
size=2>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:51 AM> Subject: [amibroker] Re: 
ApplyStop() in RT> > > > Hermann,> >> 
> if I understand you, the applystops are not executed with minutes> 
> Bars.> > Hum? I don't like applystop except for backtesting 
futures ( the> > amount of stops in point is easy to write).> 
>> > I copy a winning system on the S&P ( winning on the 
paper,and> > backtest from 02/01 to 09/03), and the applystop are 
executed> > correctly. I don't trade the S&P future.> 
>> > the settings are> > commission: 5/contracts> 
> future mode : check> > active stop immediately:check> > 
allow same bar exit:check> >> > stephane> 
>> >> >> >> > //Title="AAZ long 
Applystop";> >> > Tradezone = (TimeNum() >= 200500 AND 
TimeNum() < 214000);> > Horaire = (TimeNum() >= 163000 AND 
TimeNum() < 200500);> > PicHoraire= Hold(Horaire==0,2) AND 
Horaire;> > Hiday= HHV(H,BarsSince(pichoraire));> > LoDay= 
LLV(L,BarsSince(pichoraire));> >> > Hiday= 
HHV(H,BarsSince(pichoraire));> > LoDay= 
LLV(L,BarsSince(pichoraire));> >> > Buystop=Ref(Hiday + 
1.5,-1);> > Plot(Buystop,"",colorGreen,1);> > 
Sellstop=Ref(LoDay - 1.5,-1);> > 
Plot(Sellstop,"",colorGreen,1);> >> > Buy = H>=Buystop 
AND Tradezone;> > Buy=Hold(Buy==0,2) AND Buy AND Tradezone ;> 
>> > Stoploss= 16 ;> > Trailstop=  32 ; 
//O-63;> > Target= 20;> >> > Sell= TimeNum() 
>220500;> > BuyPrice=Buystop;> >> > ApplyStop 
(stopTypeProfit, stopModePoint,> > Target 
,exitatstop=True,volatile=False,ReEntryDelay=1) ;> > ApplyStop 
(stopTypeLoss, stopModePoint, StopLoss,> > 
exitatstop=True,volatile=False,ReEntryDelay=1) ;> > ApplyStop 
(stopTypeTrailing, stopModePoint, Trailstop,> > 
exitatstop=True,volatile=False,reentrydelay=1) ;> >> > /* le 
mode de calcul du trailing est # de Rem.dll il est fonction de> > 
highest H - valuewhen(Buy,value point)*/> >> > 
Equity(1,0);> >> > Plot(Close,"close",IIf( Buy, colorGreen, 
IIf(Sell ,> > colorRed ,1 )),64);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Buy,BuyPrice),"BuyPrice",colorWhite,1);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Sell,SellPrice),"SellPrice",colorYellow,1);> > 
PlotShapes(IIf(Buy,> > 
shapeUpArrow,shapeNone),colorGreen,0,C,-20);> > 
PlotShapes(IIf(Sell,> > 
shapeDownArrow,shapeNone),colorRed,0,H,-20);> >> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Buy,BuyPrice-StopLoss),"StopLoss",colorRed,1);> > 
Plot(HighestSince(Buy, H - ValueWhen> > 
(Buy,TrailStop)),"Trailing",colorGreen,1);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Buy,BuyPrice+Target),"Target",colorBlue,1);> >> 
> GraphXSpace=1;> >> > Title="AAZ short 
Applystop";> >> > Sellstop=Ref(LoDay - 1.5,-1);> > 
Plot(Sellstop,"",colorGreen,1);> >> > Short = L<=Sellstop 
AND Tradezone;> > Short=Hold(Short==0,2) AND Short AND Tradezone 
;> >> > Stoploss= 16 ;> > Trailstop=  32 ; 
//O-63;> > Target= 20;> >> > Cover= TimeNum() 
>220500;> > ShortPrice=SellStop;> >> > 
ApplyStop (stopTypeProfit, stopModePoint,> > Target 
,exitatstop=True,volatile=False,ReEntryDelay=1) ;> > ApplyStop 
(stopTypeLoss, stopModePoint, StopLoss,> > 
exitatstop=True,volatile=False,ReEntryDelay=1) ;> > ApplyStop 
(stopTypeTrailing, stopModePoint, Trailstop,> > 
exitatstop=True,volatile=False,reentrydelay=1) ;> >> > 
Equity(1,0);> >> > Plot(Close,"Close",IIf( Short, 
colorGreen, IIf(Cover ,> > colorRed ,1 )),64);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Short,ShortPrice),"ShortPrice",colorWhite,1);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Cover,CoverPrice),"CoverPrice",colorYellow,1);> > 
PlotShapes(IIf(Short,> > 
shapeDownArrow,shapeNone),colorBlue,0,C,-10);> > 
PlotShapes(IIf(Cover,> > 
shapeUpArrow,shapeNone),colorYellow,0,C,-10);> >> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Short,ShortPrice+StopLoss),"StopLoss",colorRed,1);> > 
Plot(LowestSince(Short, L + ValueWhen> > 
(Short,TrailStop)),"Trailing",colorGreen,1);> > 
Plot(ValueWhen(Short,ShortPrice-Target),"Target",colorBlue,1);> 
>> > GraphXSpace=1;> >> > 
SetOption("InitialEquity", 20000 );> > MarginDeposit = 1500;> 
> RoundLotSize = 1;> > PointValue = 50;> > NumContracts = 
100;> > PositionSize = Min((NumContracts * 
MarginDeposit),Equity());> >> >> >> 
>> > <<FONT face=Arial 
size=2>psytek@x...> wrote:> > 
> hello stephane,> > >> > > my entries are at the 
open, the signal last only one minute (093000-> > 093100)> > 
> my exits are supposed to be real time and are independent from the> 
> entries.> > > I used> > >> > > 
SetOption("AllowSameBarExit",True);> > > 
SetOption("ActivateStopsImmediately",True);> > >> > > 
My exitprices in settings are set to Open (should be irrelevant)> > 
however the> > > exit time for my Stops show as 16:00 (Close). No 
idea what i am> > doing> > > wring....> > 
>> > > TIA for any help you can give,> > > 
herman.> > >> > >> > >   
-----Original Message-----> > >   From: Stephane 
Carrasset [mailto:s.carrasset@xxxx]> > >   Sent: 
Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:13 AM> > >   To: <A 
href=""><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > 
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] ApplyStop() in RT> > 
>   Importance: High> > >> > >> 
> >   Herman,> > >> > >   I 
don't understand, do you mean you can't use applystop in real> > time 
data.> > >   because applystop works well in backtesting 
futures on already> > known> > > minutes bar.> 
> >> > >   stephane> > 
>     ----- Original Message -----> > 
>     From: Herman van den Bergen> > 
>     To: AmiBroker YahooGroups> > 
>     Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:08 AM> 
> >     Subject: [amibroker] ApplyStop() in RT> 
> >> > >> > >     Can 
somebody tell me if i can use the ApplyStop() in RT minute> > 
data?> > >> > >     When i inspect 
the trade list i notice that all stops take> > place at> > 
> 09:31:00 (This system trades at the Open) and i cannot seem to find> 
> a way to> > > make them exit at any other times. My entry 
signals are at the> > Open... but> > > what do i have to 
do to see my Stops take places at various times> > during the> 
> > day? Is anybody getting stops at different times during the 
day?> > >> > >     btw, the help 
does not mention RT wrt the ApplyStop... I> > backtest using> 
> > minutes, have stops set to exit immediately, same day exits 
allowed.> > >> > >     TIA for any 
help you can give.> > >     herman.> 
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