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RE: [amibroker] More on data holes - for TJ



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I 
don't get this. If a stock doesn't trade for a bar, there's some justification 
for saying its price is the price of the last trade, though I could also see 
ignoring that bar completely. But how does the price of a stock change if it's 
neither bought nor sold? How is price determined in that case? Neither bid or 
ask is actually price if nobody trades.
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>Even 
  Worse,The Stock price could move, But still no one trades in it, And 
  you wouldn't even know about it - IF you were using unpadded 
  data!!!!Michael.At 11:54 PM 1/01/2004, you wrote:>I 
  Agree with Chuck 
  here,>          Why on 
  earth you would want unpadded data is beyond me. (For the>reason of 
  disrupting indicators).>>With unpadded data, If a stock simply 
  had no trades for the day, then it>would be ommited from the unpadded 
  list of stocks. Not just wether it was>actualy able to trade that day 
  (Suspended or whatever).>>When I want a MA of the last 3 trading 
  days - If I don't average in the day>with 0 trades, Im not realy 
  getting an MA of the last 3 
  days.>>Michael.>>>At 10:47 PM 1/01/2004, 
  you wrote:> >Chuck,> >> >My question for you, 
  however, is how do the various indicators and moving> >average 
  calculations deal with un-padded data holes.   If I do a 5-day 
  MA,> >for instance, and one of the days has no data, what would I 
  get for the> >MA?   Same for RSI or any other 
  indicator.    It's taken me years to get> >rid of 
  data holes and find a data providor who will consistently pad them> 
  >for me so that indicators and other calculations work properly 
  (IMO).> >> >That's why I prefer unpadded data. I don't 
  want 'artificial' data to> >affect my indicators. The MA from 
  unpadded data represents only real> >trading days data.> 
  >So if say there was no trading on friday, the MA would represent 5 
  days> >before friday (previous friday, last monday, tuesday, wed, 
  thursday).> > From my *personal* point of view, calculation of 
  indicators should not be> > affected by bars artificially added by 
  padding process.> >But of course your preference may be different 
  and you can use padded data> >and include all bars (including 
  artificial ones with zero volume).> >> >Best 
  regards,> >Tomasz Janeczko> >amibroker.com> 
  >----- Original Message -----> >From: 
  <mailto:chuck_rademacher@xxxxxxxxxx>Chuck Rademacher> >To: 
  <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  >Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:29 PM> >Subject: 
  [amibroker] More on data holes - for TJ> >> >TJ,> 
  >> >Paul's plug-in and my conversion program could, if desired, 
  create data> >holes (consistently) for users who want 
  them.   I'm not trying to be> >funny, but it is possible 
  to leave a hole on those days when the volume is> >zero.   
  We can forget about why anyone would want to do this.   It can 
  be> >done and it would be 100% consistent rather than 15% consistent 
  like it is> >for most data providors.> >> >My 
  question for you, however, is how do the various indicators and moving> 
  >average calculations deal with un-padded data holes.   If I do a 
  5-day MA,> >for instance, and one of the days has no data, what 
  would I get for the> >MA?   Same for RSI or any other 
  indicator.    It's taken me years to get> >rid of 
  data holes and find a data providor who will consistently pad them> 
  >for me so that indicators and other calculations work properly 
  (IMO).> >> >I could test to see how some of these 
  calculations are affected... if only> >I had some data 
holes!!


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