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Anyone know the code for RR ratio?

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phsst" <phsst@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas


> There is no reason you should not stick with it.
>
> It worked for me with some past trading systems (before
> PositionScore's) were available.
>
> I'll be giving it a try in the PositionScore realm soon.
>
> Take care.
>
> Phsst
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "HB" <hmab@xxxx> wrote:
> > Phsst,
> >
> > Actually, I've been doing some more extensive testing and it seems
> that the RR ratio is holding up better than the other ranking
> mechanisms that were posted.
> >
> > So, I might just stick with what I've been using all along !
> >
> > I guess the ranking mechanism is really dependent on the
> "personality" of your trading system.  The RR ratio fits really well
> with the system I'm using.
> >
> > HB
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Phsst
> >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:43 AM
> >   Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >
> >
> >   HB,
> >
> >   Good idea.
> >
> >   I used to Filter based upon a Risk/Reward ratio calculation, but have
> >   not yet used it as a PositionScore.
> >
> >   Thanks,
> >
> >   Phsst
> >
> >   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "HB" <hmab@xxxx> wrote:
> >   > Gary,
> >   >
> >   > The reward-risk ratio is on a per signal basis.  Each potential buy
> >   signal is ranked by its RR ratio.
> >   >
> >   > RR = potential reward for this trade / potential risk for this trade
> >   >
> >   > I don't think that's the same as UPI, right ?
> >   >
> >   > HB
> >   >
> >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >   From: Gary A. Serkhoshian
> >   >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:40 PM
> >   >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   HB,
> >   >
> >   >   Sounds like UPI or similar, yes?  They all seem to do about
> the same.
> >   >
> >   >   Regards,
> >   >   Gary
> >   >
> >   >   HB <hmab@xxxx> wrote:
> >   >     Phsst, no you did not miss it because I never posted it.
> >   >
> >   >     My original one is based on a really simple reward/risk ratio.
> >   The higher the ratio, the better.
> >   >
> >   >     I'm also going to check out the suggestion of using system's
> >   past performance on the stock.  That's how I regularly select my
> >   basket, but I never thought of using it to rank.  This would be akin
> >   to what Chuck & other have been saying all along.  I.e. don't select a
> >   basket, let the ranking sort through all stocks and pick the good
> ones.
> >   >
> >   >     HB
> >   >
> >   >       ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >       From: Phsst
> >   >       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >       Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:04 PM
> >   >       Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >       HB,
> >   >
> >   >       I looked and could not find where you posted your favorite
> >   >       Positionscore method.
> >   >
> >   >       Did I miss it?
> >   >
> >   >       Phsst
> >   >
> >   >       --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "HB" <hmab@xxxx> wrote:
> >   >       > FYI, I tried all the position score methods that have been
> >   posted in
> >   >       the past few days.  They all performed worse than the one
> I was
> >   >       currently using, except for Fred's BB example.
> >   >       >
> >   >       > It increased all the "good stats" by 50% but it also
> >   increased my
> >   >       MDD by 50%.  So, MDD is now at an unacceptable point, but
> >   definitely
> >   >       worth a look into this scoring mechanism.
> >   >       >
> >   >       > HB
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >       >   From: Gary A. Serkhoshian
> >   >       >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >       >   Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:00 PM
> >   >       >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >   >       >
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   Hi Al !
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   For shorter-term signals, it seems like volatility is your
> >   best
> >   >       friend, and you'd mentioned that you've already tried that.
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   So, how about Fred's BollingerBand example:
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   BBandWid = 2;
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   UBBand = BBandTop(Close, 21, BBandWid);
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   LBBand = BBandBot(Close, 21, BBandWid);
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   PositionScore = 100 - 100 * (Close - LBBand) / (UBBand -
> >   >       LBBand);//0 when C == Upper Band, 100 when C == Lower Band
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   OR a variation of good 'ol RT
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   RT = Close / MA(Close,13);  //64 bar is the original
> version
> >   >       >
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   BTW, if you don't mind sharing what are you basing your
> >   signals on
> >   >       to give such short terms swings?  You can keep in general if
> >   you like
> >   >       (ie. ma-based, oscillator-based, etc.)
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   Kind Regards,
> >   >       >   Gary
> >   >       >
> >   >       >   Al Venosa <advenosa@xxxx> wrote:
> >   >       >     Thanks, Phsst. I'm a QP2 user also. But all those QP2
> >   >       GetExtraData variables are not updated daily, so I don't think
> >   they
> >   >       would be useful for a short-term trading system like I was
> talking
> >   >       about. Using PositionScore over a modest time period, you'd
> >   get the
> >   >       same 4 stocks all the time, wouldn't you, or at least until
> >   they get
> >   >       updated. Perhaps QRS gets updated weekly, so maybe that
> >   wouldn't be as
> >   >       bad, but I think I'd like something that is more
> reflective of the
> >   >       trade system duration, in other words, something that I
> can update
> >   >       daily at EOD.
> >   >       >
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >       >       From: Phsst
> >   >       >       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >       >       Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:26 PM
> >   >       >       Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >   >       >
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       Al,
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       My favorite is the QP2 QRS value (GetExtraData("QRS").
> >   The QP2 QRS
> >   >       >       value is supposed to be a 'knockoff' of the IBD RS
> >   ranking score.
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       I almost always get a significant boost using this
> ranking
> >   >       figure as
> >   >       >       as the positionscore.
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       If you do not have QP2, but have any ideas about
> how to do
> >   >       your own RS
> >   >       >       Rank calculation, I'd be happy to run some comparisons
> >   for you (or
> >   >       >       anyone else) to measure your calculated RS Rank
> >   against QP2's
> >   >       QRS rank.
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       Cheers,
> >   >       >
> >   >       >       Phsst
> >   >       >       --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa"
> >   <advenosa@xxxx>
> >   >       wrote:
> >   >       >       > Hi, all:
> >   >       >       >
> >   >       >       > I've been experimenting with variuos short term
> >   trading systems
> >   >       >       lately (average trade durations of about 2.5 days),
> >   and I was
> >   >       looking
> >   >       >       for ideas on how best to rank a watchlist to get
> the best
> >   >       candidates
> >   >       >       for portfolio trading a basket of 4 stocks. I was
> >   wondering if
> >   >       anyone
> >   >       >       would care to share any ideas on how you use the
> >   PositionScore
> >   >       >       function to rank your candidate list (using regular
> >   mode, not
> >   >       >       rotational mode). I've tried combinations of
> turnover and
> >   >       volatility,
> >   >       >       but I'd like to try other ideas. I'm not asking anyone
> >   to give
> >   >       away
> >   >       >       any secrets, and, yes, I am aware of TJ's example in
> >   the help file
> >   >       >       (PositionScore = 100 -RSI());), but I was just
> looking for
> >   >       more ideas.
> >   >       >       I'm not even sure if this question is too vague or
> >   not. If it
> >   >       is, I'm
> >   >       >       sure you'll tell me. TIA.
> >   >       >       >
> >   >       >       > Al Venosa
> >   >       >       > advenosa@xxxx
> >   >       >       >
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