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[amibroker] Re: Mutual Fund Money Management



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Also, I might add that I do not use Volatility to adjust my position 
size, I use Volatility (Low, Medium or High) to filter the type of  
signals I trade.  

For e.g., if the Volatility is Low, I have a wider choice of signals 
to trade and if the Volatility is Medium or High, I have a much 
narrower range (stronger signals: typically trend-changes or swing 
trades classified as superbuy or supersell).  

For continuation signals, Volatility doesn't matter, but momentum 
does.  Typically, one would find that momentum decreases across time-
frames (consensus) when there is a dip/rally in an 
uptrend/downtrend...

rgds, Pal


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> Yes, I knew that.  I would still not use any standing stops on day 
of 
> entry, and use only mental stops.
> 
> rgds, Pal
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> wrote:
> > Pal, thanks, interesting calculations.  I assume you realize MFs 
> trade
> > only at the close and "showing your hand" is not an issue.  The 
only
> > real issue is trading too frequently and getting penalized and/or 
> banned
> > from trading the fund in the future.  I assume you know this.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@x...] 
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:27 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Mutual Fund Money Management
> > 
> > Assuming your usable_margin is the same as the total equity when 
> you 
> > start your trading, ie., $50,000.00, the 
> > 
> > AVAILABLE_EQUITY(AE) = 0.1 * USABLE_MARGIN (UM);
> > available_equity  = 0.1 * 50000.00 = $5000.00;
> > 
> > If you determine your Max_System_%_DD or Max_Trade_%_DD using AB 
> Back 
> > testing or MCS as 20% = 0.2
> > 
> > POSITION_SIZE (PS) = AE / MAX_DRAWDOWN_% = 0.1 * UM / 0.2 = 0.5 * 
UM
> > 
> > Position_Size = 0.1 * $50,000.00/0.2 = $25,000.00
> > 
> > If you want to trade 3 MF's, then you would invest $8,333.00 per 
MF.
> > 
> > Enter at opening range and/or at support/resistance depending on 
> > where the current price is at.  This automatically takes care of 
> the 
> > volatility.  Mental Stops on day of trade at 1 full point away 
from 
> > entry.  Never reveal your positions.  Exit after 20 minutes only 
if 
> > your mental stop is hit and you are still losing.  Never show 
your 
> > stop on day of entry as this is equivalent to showing your hand 
in 
> a 
> > poker game and the specialist's would view that with glee.  Use a 
> > 3BSMA stop from next session onwards.
> > 
> > rgds, Pal
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > Excuse me for asking a potentially dumb question, but what are 
> some
> > > "accepted" rules of thumb for money management AFA mutual funds 
> are
> > > concerned.
> > > 
> > > I can see that you might risk say 2%, on a position, and know 
> what 
> > your
> > > stop loss would be, and then divide the price per share of the 
> fund 
> > by
> > > the loss level to approximate the number of shares to buy.
> > > 
> > > But what about some of the other rules of thumb, like do not 
risk 
> > more
> > > than 3% of total equity on a position.  Or does this apply to 
the 
> > stop
> > > loss?  Seems like 3% might be a small (too small?) amount for a 
> > mutual
> > > fund position.  I do not know. It depends on the size of your 
> > portfolio
> > > of course.  What if you have a $20,000 portfolio?  What if you 
> have 
> > a
> > > $2,000,000 portfolio.  A $60,000 MF purchase out of a $2M 
> portfolio 
> > does
> > > not "seem" to be the right "proportion", or is it?
> > > 
> > > Also, what about the inherent volatility reduction that occurs 
> with 
> > the
> > > multiple stocks in a fund?
> > > 
> > > What about the number of funds to own at a single time?  How 
> would 
> > you
> > > go about figuring this out, given high correlation among the 
> funds?
> > > ....or given low correlation among the funds?
> > > 
> > > Is it better to divide a given amount (say $100K) among two 
> similar
> > > funds ($50K each) ,or is it better to plunk the entire amount 
> into 
> > the
> > > one fund? Would you increase the number of different funds given
> > > increasing size of total portfolio funds?
> > > 
> > > Again, maybe a whole series of dumb questions but what do some 
of 
> > you
> > > more experienced money management folks have to say for this?  
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > 
> > 
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