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Yes, I knew that.  I would still not use any standing stops on day of 
entry, and use only mental stops.

rgds, Pal
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> wrote:
> Pal, thanks, interesting calculations.  I assume you realize MFs 
trade
> only at the close and "showing your hand" is not an issue.  The only
> real issue is trading too frequently and getting penalized and/or 
banned
> from trading the fund in the future.  I assume you know this.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@x...] 
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:27 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Mutual Fund Money Management
> 
> Assuming your usable_margin is the same as the total equity when 
you 
> start your trading, ie., $50,000.00, the 
> 
> AVAILABLE_EQUITY(AE) = 0.1 * USABLE_MARGIN (UM);
> available_equity  = 0.1 * 50000.00 = $5000.00;
> 
> If you determine your Max_System_%_DD or Max_Trade_%_DD using AB 
Back 
> testing or MCS as 20% = 0.2
> 
> POSITION_SIZE (PS) = AE / MAX_DRAWDOWN_% = 0.1 * UM / 0.2 = 0.5 * UM
> 
> Position_Size = 0.1 * $50,000.00/0.2 = $25,000.00
> 
> If you want to trade 3 MF's, then you would invest $8,333.00 per MF.
> 
> Enter at opening range and/or at support/resistance depending on 
> where the current price is at.  This automatically takes care of 
the 
> volatility.  Mental Stops on day of trade at 1 full point away from 
> entry.  Never reveal your positions.  Exit after 20 minutes only if 
> your mental stop is hit and you are still losing.  Never show your 
> stop on day of entry as this is equivalent to showing your hand in 
a 
> poker game and the specialist's would view that with glee.  Use a 
> 3BSMA stop from next session onwards.
> 
> rgds, Pal
> 
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> wrote:
> > Excuse me for asking a potentially dumb question, but what are 
some
> > "accepted" rules of thumb for money management AFA mutual funds 
are
> > concerned.
> > 
> > I can see that you might risk say 2%, on a position, and know 
what 
> your
> > stop loss would be, and then divide the price per share of the 
fund 
> by
> > the loss level to approximate the number of shares to buy.
> > 
> > But what about some of the other rules of thumb, like do not risk 
> more
> > than 3% of total equity on a position.  Or does this apply to the 
> stop
> > loss?  Seems like 3% might be a small (too small?) amount for a 
> mutual
> > fund position.  I do not know. It depends on the size of your 
> portfolio
> > of course.  What if you have a $20,000 portfolio?  What if you 
have 
> a
> > $2,000,000 portfolio.  A $60,000 MF purchase out of a $2M 
portfolio 
> does
> > not "seem" to be the right "proportion", or is it?
> > 
> > Also, what about the inherent volatility reduction that occurs 
with 
> the
> > multiple stocks in a fund?
> > 
> > What about the number of funds to own at a single time?  How 
would 
> you
> > go about figuring this out, given high correlation among the 
funds?
> > ....or given low correlation among the funds?
> > 
> > Is it better to divide a given amount (say $100K) among two 
similar
> > funds ($50K each) ,or is it better to plunk the entire amount 
into 
> the
> > one fund? Would you increase the number of different funds given
> > increasing size of total portfolio funds?
> > 
> > Again, maybe a whole series of dumb questions but what do some of 
> you
> > more experienced money management folks have to say for this?  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ken
> 
> 
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