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RE: [amibroker] StoRSI... was Re: Robustness



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No 
apology needed...it is not a system at all... but an indicator that I routinely 
use (as well as others) to help me determine entry and exit 
points
 
Regards, 
Jayson 
<FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: john gibb 
[mailto:jgibb1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:56 
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker] 
StoRSI... was Re: RobustnessHi Phsst,this 
helps; thanks...using a large number of issues makes sense for your 
testing because I assumeyou would consider trading any of 
those...i'm just looking for a sensible approach to evaluating systems 
both for a)optionable stocks/indices and b) QQQso far I conclude 
that, unfortunately, they are probably going to bedifferent 
systemsFor example, my first reaction to Jayson's system (using the QQQs 
from theirinception in 1999 to date is forget it) (no offense, Jayson :) ) 
due to thenegative'return on account'. But using my 2000 or so 
optionables, I got a smallpositive'return on account'.What do 
you use, if not 'return on account', as a first-pass evaluator?thanks 
again,-john----- Original Message ----- From: "Phsst" 
<phsst@xxxxxxxxx>To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
Monday, November 24, 2003 10:43 AMSubject: [amibroker] StoRSI... was Re: 
Robustness> John,>> As I recall, Anthony's system 
focused upon QQQ test results, the same> as Dave's.>> I 
failed to qualify my post with the caveat that I don't restrict my> 
backtests to only one stock (I know that several folks do, but I just> 
don't trust the validity of test results that are so limited in 
scope).>> So if you are trying to compare report-stat thresholds 
against the> QQQ's, then I am not qualified to help you.>> 
So my recommendation for looking at Jaysons StoRSI code was based 
upon>   test results against hundreds or thousands of issues. 
This makes it> pretty easy to eyeball the report stats and see if there 
is anything> of interest there.>> I am not trading the 
StoRSI system. Rather I am tweaking it to get a> feel for how it responds 
to various filters and conditions. Even> though I have what I consider 
positive results that were achieved very> quickly, I want to understand 
how any potential 'finished product' I> come up with will react in many 
situations.>> Because of my early positive experience with the 
indicator, I thought> it worth mentioning on the forum.>> I 
don't think this is what you wanted to hear, but I hope it 
helps.>> Regards,>> Phsst>> --- In 
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "john gibb" <jgibb1@xxxx> wrote:> > 
Hi Phsst,> >> > Can you share:> >> 
>     a) what report-stat thresholds you looked at to 
conclude 'it showed> > promise'> >     
b) any other specific recomendations to make a first-cut> evaluation 
on> > any proposed system. For example, if I want to quickly compare 
Anthony's> > system in Message # 52872> > with 
Jayson's)> > ?> >> > thanks> >> 
> -john> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phsst" 
<phsst@xxxx>> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:37 PM> > Subject: [amibroker] 
StoRSI... was Re: Robustness> >> >> > > Sid, 
Owen & anyone else who is curious,> > >> > > I 
would suggest that you forget the StoRSI 8 8 3 code that Dave> > > 
posted. (I never saw or heard CedarCreekTrading's recommendations> > 
> regarding this trading system).> > >> > > 
Instead, you might want to take a look at the StoRSI code that Jayson> 
> > provided in Message # 52370.> > >> > > Add 
your trade delays, initial equity, positionsize, positionscore,> > 
> other personal preferences for backtesting (including watchlist, 
etc.)> > > and other filters that make sense to you.> > 
>> > > I don't promise anything, but in my backtesting it showed 
promise> > > almost 'out of the box', plus it has the graphic 
support in IB for> > > fine tuning.> > >> > 
> (Be sure to email me and Jayson if you find the Grail <g>). (((( 
AND> > > DON'T COME CRABBING IF YOU DON'T FIND THE GRAIL... OK? 
))))> > >> > > And as far as Robustness is 
concerned... robustness is in the eyes of> > > the beholder! (No 
more complicated than that)> > >> > > Regards,> 
> >> > > Phsst> > >> > > --- In 
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sidney Kaiser <s9kaiser@xxxx> wrote:> 
> > > Too much tongue in cheek...what are you trying to say 
here?> > > > Sid> > > >> > > > 
At 10:32 PM 11/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:> > > >> > 
> > >Sidney Kaiser wrote:> > > > >> > > 
> > > Steve K's system is not a system at all but rather an idea 
that> > > needs to> > > > >be> > > 
> > > fleshed out to turn it into a money maker.  I made a few 
passes> > > at it and> > > > > > never 
discovered the appropriate additions to turn it into a> > > winner, 
so I> > > > > > can understand Dave M's frustration with 
his attempts to wring> > > some profit> > > > > 
> out of the idea.> > > > >> > > > 
>[Keep trying.  It's not that hard.]> > > > >> 
> > > >Er, scratch that.  It's impossible.  Forget you 
ever read it.> > > > >> > > > >Owen 
Davies> > > > >> > > > >> > > 
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