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Re: [amibroker] Re: The expectation for an H&S



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DT & Yuki:
 
FWIW, the following are Bulkowski's (Encyclopedia of 
Chart Patterns) key characteristics and statistics for a 
H&S:
 
Characteristics:
 
1.    Shape - After an upward trend, 
the formation appears as three bumps, the center one is the tallest, resembling 
a bust.
 
2.    Symmetry - The two shoulders 
appear at about the same price level.  Distance from the shoulders to the 
head is approximately the same.  There can be wide variation in the 
formation's appearance, but symmetry is usually a good clue to the veracity of 
the formation.
 
3.    Volume - Highest on the left 
shoulder, followed by the head.  The right shoulder shows the lowest volume 
of the three peaks.
 
4.    Downside breakout - Once 
prices pierce the neckline, they may pull back briefly, then continue moving 
down.
 
 Statistics (431 formations in 500 stocks in 
period '91-'96):
 
1.    Failure rate - 
7%
2.    Average decline of successful 
formation - 23%
3.    Most likely decline - 15 - 
20%
4.    % meeting or exceeding price 
target (measured move) - 63%
5.    Average formation length - 62 
days
6.    Average performance for (1) lower 
shoulder (right or left) or (2) sloping (down or up) neckline - results not 
statistically significant.
 
Bill
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: [amibroker] Re: The expectation for an 
H&S
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size=2>Yuki,could you please take a look at<A 
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size=2>and tell me which example matches better to your H&S point of 
view?We could add some additional Volume conditions to the existing H&S 
code.1. Do you want the Volume to form a H&S too [like JYC example], 
diminishing [like the BPC example] or something else ?2. Does your 
picture agree with the volume expansion at the breakout [although it is too 
late for any action...]3. Should we ask the 3 peaks to be a% higher than the 
recent [last 3-6 months] lows4. Any MAs condition as long as the H&S 
is createdTIADimitris Tsokakis--- In <A 
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size=2>yukitaga@x...> wrote:> 
Hi Dimitris,> > Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 9:32:14 PM, you 
wrote:> > DT> Let us see the recent ^NDX behavior.> 
> DT> After a long period we have had [Nov9 to Nov10] the first 
> DT> important bearish signals, a simultaneous> > 
DT> ~MeanStochD and ~MeanRelSlope divergence. The whole market > 
DT> looks a bit tired and the bears have > > DT> a lot of 
reasons to wake up> > DT> P2 [Nov7] is the second peak of a 
probable H S > DT> formation.[sensitivity perc=3%]> > 
DT> The trendlines are no longer parallel, a slight converging > 
DT> wedge is apparent day by day.> > DT> If the next days 
will keep on creating the H S, let us see > DT> the proper action 
moment.> > DT> It is easy [and confusing] to speak after the 
> DT> facts .> > DT> We have more than 5 bars to see 
any complete form, let us > DT> concentrate in the details [other 
leading/lagging] indicators]> > DT> and add contributions to 
this thread, but, please, before the > DT> facts.> > 
DT> 15 bars later we may see what was written and make > DT> our 
comments [or laugh with our great texts !!]> > DT> I hope it is 
interesting.> > There is NO question that this market looks very 
tired.  MRSI and RSI> divergences since September are 
telling.  These divergences persist.> > However, classic 
H&S is not indicated at all, to me.  The volume> signals 
necessary to validate or suggest such a position just are not> there 
. . . unless we use our imagination and get very creative,> which is a 
violation of TA formation-spotting in my book.  But> really, they 
are just not there, and I don't see it.> > The plain fact of the 
matter, though, is that markets do NOT hold> continuously at ~20 percent 
above their 200 day SMAs.  And that is> roughly where this market 
has been churning higher for several months> now.  In a strong 
trend of course, that CAN persist for a while.  But> it is bound 
to come undone, and the downside risks here are not> insubstantial -- the 
longer this unsustainable posture persists, the> sooner it has to come 
undone.  This is an index where even the rather> responsive 18 
day SMA has NOT ONCE even dipped below the 50 day SMA> since they last 
crossed in March.  It's an index that is up a> startling 40 percent 
since March.  The only reason in my opinion it> has been able to 
come this far, is that such a percentage is still> within some acceptable 
(and even normal) oscillation coming off the> absurd bubble created in 
the late 90s.  But we are somewhat due for a> pullback of some 
magnitude I think.> > But I see nothing right now to indicate a 
major trend change, and> certainly no H&S as I need to see 
them.  But I see plenty to suggest> that the risks of a major (and I 
think much-needed) correction are> increasing.  That correction 
could easily take the ^NDX as low as> 1200.  But that is only about 
a 16 percent pullback from the recent> highs, and would still NOT 
indicate a reversal to a bear market.> > However, it could 
indicate the beginning of a broad sideways> oscillation that swing and 
intermediate term traders might love,> where the ^NDX roams up and down, 
covering 200 plus points at a time.> > All that said, once 
again I see no signs of any complete trend> reversal at all.  But I 
see a one-way market for 7 months in what is> more often a two-way world. 
This happens.  It happens over and over> again. But IT DOES NOT 
PERSIST over long time periods, and this one> is getting long in the 
tooth, IMO.  The low-hanging fruit is likely> to have been plucked, 
and the road ahead may be more "interesting"> that the road just 
traveled.  I think many of these stocks will be> available for 
decent long opportunities at better prices than we are> now 
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