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I've just purchased Prosizer and the way I've been transferring the 
required info is exporting the backtest results to excel through a 
csv and exporting a exploration. Then I cut and paste the columns I 
want in excel. The code I use in the exploration is-

PositionSize = 10000; 

ApplyStop(stopTypeLoss, stopModePoint, 2*ATR(14), True, True ); 

AddColumn(BuyPrice,"BuyPrice",1.4,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(ShortPrice,"ShortPrice",1.4,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(ATR(20),"ATR",1.4,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(2*ATR(14),"ATRStopPoint",1.4,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(2*ATR(14)*
(1*PositionSize),"ATRStop$",1.0,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(4.5*ATR(14),"ATRProfitPoint",1.4,colorDefault,colorDefault);
AddColumn(ATR(14)*
(1*PositionSize),"ATR$",1.0,colorDefault,colorDefault);

You have to change the variables that suit you (positionsize etc). 
This is a really rough and messy way to do things and I'm striving to 
improve but I'm in a hurry for results and this works.

I now have position size strategy I want to use so now I also have a 
question, how to call up the net profit in auto analysis eg d = x + y 
* netprofit

Thanks

Matt

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714" 
<quanttrader714@xxxx> wrote:
> Thanks for that perspective because my focus is on stocks.  In fact,
> almost everything I post should be taken in that context.
> 
> Hey, I really, really want to play with Prosizer. Does anyone know 
how
> to do the following?
> 
> Somehow coax out of AB these 3 columns, with each row providing
> numbers on a *per trade* basis. 
> 
> 1. Closed trade profit/loss in $
> 2. Risk (stop loss) in $ at trade entry
> 3. 20 day ATR at trade entry
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > Mark,
> > 
> > I suspect that the numbers Alex is looking for are in terms of 
> > dollars as opposed to percent not only because of what you stated
> but 
> > also because this is the way most futures traders usually look at 
> > things and I think Alex most naturally fits in that 
classification.
> > 
> > Fred
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714" 
> > <quanttrader714@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Looking at this closer... using profit/trade in $ as opposed to 
%
> > > terms can introduce a whole bunch of complications, especially
> when
> > > comparing results on different issues or even on the same issue 
if
> > > there's a significant change in price during the test period,
> > > depending on system test settings.  With that said, obviously
> this 
> > guy
> > > knows that from just guesstimating the brainpower required to 
put
> > > a package like this together.  So it seems as if this product 
is 
> > more
> > > oriented toward developing/comparing/contrasting position sizing
> > > strategies on specific issues... looks like it's well worth the
> $37
> > > for just the "hands-on" education on position sizing 
methodologies
> > > alone.  I still personally prefer a generic MCS package where 
you 
> > can
> > > brew your own but will probably buy this anyway and play with it
> to
> > > see what ideas I can get.  Would be nice, BTW, if the graphs for
> > > return% maxdd, etc. had numbers on the x axis.
> > > 
> > > Ken, to address your question, let me put what's required for
> input
> > > into specific terms for the board.  You'd need to somehow coax 
the
> > > following out of AB in 3 columns, with each row providing 
numbers 
> > on a
> > > *per trade* basis.  Anyone care to take a stab?
> > > 
> > > 1. Closed trade profit/loss in $
> > > 2. Risk (stop loss) in $ at trade entry
> > > 3. 20 day ATR at trade entry
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > Fred:  you got your message "reply to" mixed up it seems.
> > > > 
> > > > I read the FAQ line by line.  No help for the question I 
asked. 
> > > What
> > > > would be the AB outputs.
> > > > 
> > > > Profit per trade is obvious.
> > > > Volatility could be ATR (but of course that does not show up 
in 
> > the
> > > > trade report but can be generated)
> > > > What about Stops?  What number is that from AB?
> > > > 
> > > > Ken
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Fred [mailto:fctonetti@x...] 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:51 AM
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Robustness Challenge Update
> > > > 
> > > > He explains a little more in the FAQ ...
> > > > 
> > > > http://unicorn.us.com/trading/prosizerfaq.html
> > > > 
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "E Winters" 
<e.winters1@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Fred,
> > > > > A while back you posted a system for the QQQ.  Might this 
be 
> > > > a "system" to
> > > > > start with?
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxx>
> > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:29 PM
> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Robustness Challenge Update
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > | Mark,
> > > > > |
> > > > > | I seem to be participating more than most which I at 
least 
> > find 
> > > > to be
> > > > > | a little strange.  One of the probs for some will be the
> need
> > > to 
> > > > find
> > > > > | and install a decent MCS product.  Some won't want to 
spend 
> > the
> > > $,
> > > > > | some won't want to spend the time etc.  By the way Alex
> > > Matulich 
> > > > has
> > > > > | a product in this area for I think about $37 that midgt 
fill
> > > the 
> > > > bill
> > > > > | for those who are interested but don't want to go for a
> more 
> > in 
> > > > depth
> > > > > | product.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Beyond that though as I stated at the beginning, I have 
no 
> > > > particular
> > > > > | interest in the last couple of steps you outlined i.e.
> > > publication
> > > > > | and real account trading.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | In my case I can't even say that I have a great data 
vendor 
> > for
> > > > > | stocks because as I've stated previously I don't really
> trade 
> > > > stocks.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | That aside for a minute, I have suggestion which may be a
> > > little 
> > > > off
> > > > > | the wall but I'll put it out there any way.  Since you've 
> > > > obviously
> > > > > | been doing this for some time, how 'bout starting the 
group 
> > off 
> > > > with
> > > > > | a little system that although you might consider to be
> robust 
> > > > even if
> > > > > | only marginally is also something that you don't actually
> use
> > > for
> > > > > | trading any more.  This would at least allow some to go 
> > through 
> > > > the
> > > > > | process with something that at least sort of works so they
> can
> > > > > | proceed from there.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Just an idea ...
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Fred
> > > > > |
> > > > > | --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714"
> > > > > | <quanttrader714@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > | > Now that I've posted the criteria, I feel we've had 
some 
> > good
> > > > > | > discussions but frankly don't see enough interest out
> there 
> > to
> > > > > | provide
> > > > > | > the effort it would take to refine the criteria or even
> use
> > > as 
> > > > is,
> > > > > | > develop some robust systems, write a trading plan, iron
> the 
> > > > bugs out
> > > > > | > in simulated trading and then trade in real time with
> real 
> > > > money.
> > > > > | I'm
> > > > > | > actually surprised there's not more interest in 
> > participating 
> > > > in the
> > > > > | > trading process from soup to nuts as I've outlined, 
> > especially
> > > > > | since I
> > > > > | > offered to put up the $.  Would be quite an education 
for 
> > > > anyone, no
> > > > > | > matter how much experience they have, but particularly
> for 
> > > > newbies.
> > > > > | > Not to mention fun.  Which is why I offered to lead such
> an 
> > > > effort
> > > > > | in
> > > > > | > the first place.  No hidden agendas here.
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | > Anyway, if I've misread things and you are interested,
> > > *please 
> > > > email
> > > > > | > me privately* and let me know the extent to which you
> > > personally
> > > > > | would
> > > > > | > like to participate.  If I get enough emails indicating 
> > there
> > > is
> > > > > | > critical mass, I'll either start this in Amibroker-ts or
> in 
> > a 
> > > > new
> > > > > | > group that everyone here would be welcome to join. If 
not
> > > then 
> > > > I'll
> > > > > | > still be around, in drips and drabs, as I have in the 
> > past.  
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > | > for the interesting and civil discussions.
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | > Regards,
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | > Mark
> > > > > |
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