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Subject: [amibroker] Re: Yes, You Can Time the Market 
(was Dimitris... QQQ Trendline Support again)

> Thanks for the link to the article.  
Long-term Speculation may be > easier and more prudent, but for small 
investors like me, the daily > problem of market prediction for the next 
day is a necessity.  I > agree with what Ben Stein basically Says, 
"Yes, You Can Time the > Market", but not only for 15 years as he says 
but for short, > intermediate and long-term (with the same risk), though 
I can't say > the same thing about 
intra-day-trading...
 
And in their own way, everybody times 
the market, irrespective of the time frame of interest.
> > Regards,> > 
Pal> --- In <A 
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"DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" <<A 
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wrote:> > We, the poor traders, have to solve these humble daily 
problems, > > before the next unsolved appear. Some other people are 
more than > > happy to speculate the next 15 [or 115 for more safe 
positions...] > > years. I'm still laughing to tears with the 
great> > <A 
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size=2>> > Take a look, as long as it is available...> > 
Dimitris Tsokakis> > --- In <A 
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"Phsst" <<FONT 
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> > <[when I write "we", I add you to the great holygrail-less 
team> > > I belong.>> > > > > > 
Dimitris,> > > > > > I am honored, not to mention 
eminently qualified to join this > team. > > I> > 
> think I even have credentials...   :-)> > > > 
> > I enjoyed working (past tense) for my bread too. Sometimes it 
was> > > hard, but more often it was fun.> > > 
> > > Phsst> > > > > > --- In 
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"DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" > > <<A 
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> wrote:> > > > Moving from Japan to Europe, 4h50 before the 
NY bell, the > general > > > > outlook is not bearish. 
The day is still young, we shall know > > more 3h > > > 
> later. [when I write "we", I add you to the great holygrail-> less 
> > team > > > > I belong. Some happy traders know 
everything in advance, I do > not > > > > belong to this 
[boring] category, I have to work hard for the > > bread > > 
> > an butter of my family and I like it].> > > > Dimitris 
Tsokakis  > > > > --- In <A 
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"DIMITRIS TSOKAKIS" > > <<A 
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> > wrote:> > > > > Phsst,> > > > > 
Since we know [http://www.amibroker.com/library/detail.php?> > id=105] 
> > > > > the support line equation> > > > 
> trendlineS = aS * ( x -endt ) + bS; > > > > > we may 
explore with> > > > > 
filter=abs(L-trendlineS)<coeff*L> > > > > and see the 
probable "touch". > > > > > Coeff values between 0.01 and 
0.02 give an idea.> > > > > Here is an example> > 
> > > > > > > > per=3;// calibrate> > > 
> > x = Cum(1);> > > > > s1=L;> > > > 
> s11=H;> > > > > pS = TroughBars( s1, per, 1 ) == 
0;> > > > > endt= LastValue(ValueWhen( pS, x, 1 ));> 
> > > > startt=LastValue(ValueWhen( pS, x, 2 ));> > > 
> > dtS =endt-startt;> > > > > endS = 
LastValue(ValueWhen( pS, s1, 1 ) );> > > > > startS = 
LastValue( ValueWhen( pS, s1, 2 ));> > > > > aS = 
(endS-startS)/dtS;> > > > > bS = endS;> > > > 
> trendlineS = aS * ( x -endt ) + bS;> > > > > 
Coeff=0.01;// calibrate > > > > > 
F=abs(L-trendlineS)<Coeff*L;> > > > > 
AddColumn((abs(L-trendlineS))/L,"Coeff",1.3);> > > > > 
Filter=f;> > > > > > > > > > Select your 
Coeff and explore.> > > > > As for your second question, do 
not forget the other > > > > interpretation, > > > 
> > a "touch" is ideal for a bearish breakout...> > > > 
> Dimitris Tsokakis> > > > > --- In <A 
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"Phsst" <<FONT 
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> > > > > Dimitris,> > > > > > > 
> > > > > A few weeks ago we exchanged some trendline dialogs 
when > the > > > > QQQ's > > > > > 
had> > > > > > hit trendline support.> > > 
> > > > > > > > > I made the QQQ trade a day or 
two late on (10/02), but > still > > made > > > 
> a> > > > > > nice profit.> > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well, the Q's are bouncing around the 
lower support > trendline > > > > again.> > 
> > > > > > > > > > The only way I can figure 
to play it is to buy 'at support' > > again.> > > > 
> > > > > > > > I now have a collection of 
'trendline' indicators (from you > > and> > > > > 
> others) that I intend to convert into explores that will > find 
> > > > these> > > > > > opportunities for 
me. But the 'Pattern Recognization' afl > did > > not > 
> > > > pick> > > > > > up on the Q's 
tonight.> > > > > > > > > > > > Just 
wanted to mention this to you to see if you might be > as > > 
> > curious> > > > > > as me about trying to trigger 
a signal on such a strong > > signal.> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Phsst> > > 
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