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Hi Yuki,
I got curious about your problem and decided to
have a look around the net for something that might help you. Well, you are
right, I certainly was not buried with hits, but I did find one site
that I thought you may want to have a look at. It says that it has real-time TSE
data for $83/month, and a flexible downloader that allows export to an Excel,
CSV or TabSV text file, which you could then import into AB. However, the site
(and most of the exchanges listed) seem to be primarily for futures/commodities,
but it DOES include Tokyo Stock Exchange in the list of exchanges so possibly
you might be able to retrieve TSE stock data? (I don't know if TSE includes
futures or not). Anyway, here is the link if you would like to look at it. From
this page, follow the link for "fsXtra" and then "data download". Good
luck!
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href="">http://www.futuresource.com/products/exchanges.asp
Steve
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Yuki
Taga
To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:15
AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Quote
Editor
Hi Tomasz,Saturday, October 4, 2003, 6:59:21 AM,
you wrote:TJ> The original intention of QE was to allow the user to
manuallyTJ> fix a couple of bars and to allow to add artificial quote
for theTJ> future if she/he wanted to see how given indicator would
behave.>> As I'm sure you know, the Downloader, a separate
program from>> Metastock, can be sized and placed right on top of a
trading screen.>> How about making the QE window like that? Is
this difficult?>> I have no idea. If not, can you please do
it? TJ> You have almost answered your own question: the
downloader is a separate program.TJ> Exactly. And it behaves as
separate program so you switch it by task bar.TJ> Quote Editor in
AmiBroker is integral part of AB and is implemented as dialogTJ> within
AB's main frame window. The same way every other windows applicaiton
behaves.TJ> You want me to make QE behaving like separate
application: well it would be possibleTJ> if it is made separate from
AB (or by implementing a 'hack'TJ> to standard behaviour of
Windows).TJ> Although possible I am a little bit reluctant to do
soTJ> because of breaking standards.>> If it presents a
serious>> problem, please let us know so we can stop bothering you
about it.>> Microsoft knows NOTHING about TA programs. Citing
their "standards">> for window behavior means nothing. No one
cares much about>> Microsoft; they care about getting their work
done. That is all I>> care about -- getting my work done as
easily as possible. The QE>> window makes my work very hard to
do.TJ> Well you may ignore all that Microsoft had said about user
interface butTJ> standards in my private opinion are good. Could you
imagine the mess whenTJ> every application got its "File" menu
somewhere else ?TJ> Please understand my point of view - every
non-standard solution causes lotsTJ> of confusion -> support issues,
etc.I do understand this, Tomasz, really. And I do think there
is acertain need for standards -- the "File" menu item is an
excellentexample. But there is also a time when a standard
interferes withfunctionality, and I think that is the case with a QE
window thatcannot be focused independently of the main AB
window.TJ> What I think is that we should not be discussing QE but
should be looking for someTJ> Japanese data vendor that can be somehow
interfaced with AB.TJ> Maybe via script or something.TJ> I
really belive that there must be a way to get your data without the need to
make youTJ> typing the quotes. Once done, you will forget about QE at
all.If I could get RT data that I could pump into AB, you are
absolutelyright -- I would forget that there was a QE. But I just
can't findit. For some reason, information here in Tokyo is treated
as aprivileged secret, especially where it concerns stocks. We can
getshort data, for example, only once a week, and then it is about
oneweek behind, so the insiders know more about what is happening
thanthe outsiders, and I'm sure they like to keep it that way.
Thisinformation could be made available EOD of course -- the
entireexchange is electronic, there is no "trading floor" any longer --
butit's in the interest of insiders to release this information
onlywhen it has aged enough to possibly be even misleading, in
otherwords, when it is largely meaningless as anything other than
ahistorical curiosity. ^_^You might also notice that every
once in a while the ^225 stopsfunctioning on Yahoo. Just the main
index quote on the "WorldMarkets" page; it suddenly won't get updated for
several days, whileevery other market in the world is updating just fine.
I am told thisis a recurring contractual problem between the TSE and
Yahoo, andthat the TSE has the highest rates in the world for
simpleinformation like this, and the tightest regulations on how it can
beused (the amount of time delay, for example).Another example: It
is only *very* recently that some Japanesecompanies have gone to quarterly
reporting. It used to be asix-month, or even annual, reporting,
which led to huge price swingsfrom fundamental surprises. Naturally, that
favors those in the knowat the expense of those not in the
club.TJ> By the way eSignal recently added Australian (ASX)
and New Zealand RT quotesTJ> as they promised more than year ago, so
maybe support forTJ> Japan stock exchange is not that far.I
sure hope so. I long for this day. But while it's not
uncommonfor vendors to carry Oz and Nz markets, it's uncommon to find
Tokyo.There are a lot of vendors here, but the systems are all
proprietaryplatforms, and they apparently want to keep the data within
thoseplatforms, which they charge outrageous prices for. (I think
thetheory is that they can't make a killing selling data, but if
theycan bind you to a platform they can gouge you.)My RT data
comes via E-Trade Japan right now. But they are not theactual
provider, they get the data from Reuters, which bought BridgeChannel, and
the trading screen is still actually a Bridge screen,even using that old
domain name -- you can see it on the address barafter you click the link
to it and log in. Reuters simply put theirown trademarks in there
over Bridge's after they bought them out, andnow Reuters allows E-Trade
Japan to paste their logos over Reuters'.So tantalizing to have the data
flowing swiftly and surely into mycomputer, but to be unable to capture it
and pipe it to AB. Maybeyou could talk to the Reuters folks about
how to do it, or maybestrike some kind of arrangement with them? I
don't know. Of courseReuters doesn't want to offer competition with
their own platform,I'm sure. I do get a real time data flow,
however. I just can't useit outside Power E-Trade except by the hand entry
method, hence my QEproblems, which wasn't a problem when I used MS.
But I no longer useMS, Tomasz, and that's your fault. ^^_^^ So
please fix this if youcan. ^_-TJ> Once again: really there must
be some data vendor in Japan thatTJ> will allow to interface some 3rd
party app. (I would investigateTJ> it myself if only I could read
Japanese :-O)I can . . . and I can't find one. There are
proprietary platforms ofcourse (at really atrocious prices), but nothing I
can find that willallow me to use the data outside of the proprietary
platform. DLQallows it of course, but they are EOD only. I
will continue tosearch, however. Whatever you can do in the meantime
either to helpme pipe this data into AB, or make the QE easier to work
with, isappreciated.The odd thing about it is that we are number
two worldwide inbroadband penetration (South Korea is number one I am
told). Plainold dial-up is almost impossible to find here now, and
high speedfiber optic is a national project virtually realized. So
ourinfrastructure is ready, and this is the kind of thing (better
accessto data) that would make more people invest in equities with
theirvery large savings, instead of keeping the money at home (yes,
athome, the sale of home safes is a very large business here)
orotherwise idle (also something of a national goal, although much
lesswell formulated than the broadband plan). But the government
doesn'tseem to know what to do in order to truly level the playing field,
orelse they are in bed with the information hoarders (the much
morelikely case of course).Best,YukiSend
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