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RE: [amibroker] H=L and V=0



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Bob this comes into 
one of those ongoing debates over the value of including non traded days over 
including them. There is an effect on the indicators, but whether this is valid 
or not I think comes to your own interpretation.
Personally I would 
like to see non traded days only when the market is open, and public holidays 
excluded from the charts. but this facility is not available from data suppliers 
that I know of.
 
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  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bob Jagow 
  [mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, 4 July 2003 1:50 
  PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [amibroker] 
  H=L and V=0
  Most 
  vendors set O = H = L = C == Ref(C,-1) for zero-V days, 
  Al.
  To do 
  otherwise would trash most indicators.
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  I also use 
  QP2 so ran your scan on a watch list of stocks with MA(V,10) 
  >250K.
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  list  had 22452 errors; 5152 with V==0. 
  Of the 
  remaining 17,300, 4300  had V <= 1000 shares; these clearly 
  could have been a single transaction.
  I'm 
  therefore not surprised by the overall % errors he two tests 
  showed.
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    face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----From: Al Venosa 
    [mailto:advenosa@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:34 
    PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
    [amibroker] H=L and V=0
    Thanks, Graham. I use QP2 EOD data, so I 
    thought the QP2 folks eliminated what you call 'padded' data. I'll write 
    them an email and ask. 
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      Subject: RE: [amibroker] H=L and 
      V=0
      
      Sounds like 
      your data you receive is padded, ie non traded days are included in the 
      data as zero volume and the C = yesterdays close with 
      o=h=l=c
      This is common 
      in Australia to use this form, but I don't know if used anywhere 
      else.
       
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        face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Al Venosa 
        [mailto:advenosa@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, 4 July 2003 
        10:22 AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
        [amibroker] H=L and V=0
        Hi, everyone:
         
        Tonight, I thought I'd do a quickie exploration of a watchlist 
        containing almost 800 stocks (range setting on all quotations). I was 
        interested in finding out how many times the high was equal to the low 
        or the volume equaled 0. I used the following exploration:
        Buy=Sell=Short=Cover=<FONT color=#ff6820 
        size=2>0;Error = H==L<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2> OR V==<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#ff6820 size=2>0<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>;<FONT color=#0000ff 
        size=2>AddColumn(H,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
        size=2>"H",<FONT color=#ff6820 
        size=2>1.2);<FONT color=#0000ff 
        size=2>AddColumn(L,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
        size=2>"L",<FONT color=#ff6820 
        size=2>1.2);<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#0000ff size=2>AddColumn<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>(V,<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#ff00ff size=2>"V"<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>,<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#ff6820 size=2>1<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>);<FONT color=#0000ff 
        size=2>AddColumn(Error,<FONT color=#ff00ff 
        size=2>"Bad Price Patterns",<FONT 
        color=#ff6820 size=2>1);<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>Filter=Error><FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#ff6820 size=2>0<FONT 
        face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>;
         
        To my surprise, I found over 13,000 instances of H==L and almost 
        2,700 instances of V==0. On the days when V==0, the H and L were also 
        equal. So, those days were truly bad data (or non-trade) days. However, 
        in the other 10,000+ instances when H==L, there was legitimate volume, 
        sometimes high volume. What does it mean when the price bars are all 
        equal (O=H=L=C), yet volume was finite? 
         
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