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Hi DT,
It's a great idea, especially if people participate and we archive
the results.
I cannot come up with a problem right at this second, but I will
think on this, and I'm sure it won't take too long. ^^_^^
Yuki
Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 6:57:57 PM, you wrote:
DT> Yuki,
DT> Instead of discussing about algorithms till the end of the year, let
DT> us do something more creative : Let us introduce, in this page,
DT> the "algorithm of the day" : You, or anybody else, will ask the
DT> question and I will try to answer the algorithm.
DT> You will not pay anything for questions.
DT> I will charge the replies.
DT> The cost will be unusual: you should ask for the next algorithm !
DT> Someday, you have the right to win a free of charge algorithm [make
DT> your calculations and arrange to be the last one...]
DT> After the experience of the first 20 algorithms, we may collect them
DT> separately somewhere and, perhaps, make an interesting reference.
DT> I would enjoy it,indeed.
DT> If you agree, let us do it right now !!
DT> Dimitris Tsokakis
DT> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Yuki Taga <yukitaga@xxxx> wrote:
>> Hi DT,
>>
>> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 8:51:50 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> DT> I still believe that AFL should reach directly the average user.
>>
>> I agree, and I think TJ would too, because that is certainly where
>> the bulk of the market is.
>>
>> So, how does this happen? Maybe I'm a good person to make a
>> suggestion here, because perhaps I typify the "average user" in many
>> respects.
>>
>> I am a non-programmer. I think most people are non-programmers (at
>> least, people who are not natives of India). ^^_^^ For me, there
>> are two difficulties. First, coming up with the algorithm that will
>> do what I want is not easy at all for me. Some good examples of how
>> to do this would be appreciated by the many non-programmer types out
>> there, I'm sure. It takes a good deal of time and energy to get
DT> into
>> this mode of thinking. Some short course would be helpful. Once I
>> have the algorithm (and this is often *more* than half the battle),
DT> I
>> have to translate that to AFL. Sometimes, the former is much harder
>> than the latter, although when you really get complex the latter is
>> no picnic either.
>>
>> So, to reach the "average user", I think some good explanations of
>> how to approach finding the right algorithm are in order, full of
>> easy to understand examples that get progressively more complex.
DT> Then
>> an explanation of how to go from algorithm to AFL is in order.
>>
>> A lot of programmers try and teach the language before they have
>> taught algorithm solving. That's because to them finding the
>> algorithm is rather automatic. Years and years of practice and
>> thinking that way have made it rather automatic. But to
>> non-programmers unused to finding algorithms to solve problems, this
>> is often the most difficult step. You want to learn the language,
DT> of
>> course. But until you know how to come up with good algorithms, the
>> language alone won't do you much good.
>>
>> My experiences traveling down this troublesome highway, anyway.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuki
>>
>> P.S. I think this is what is most difficult about "Help files".
>> Mostly, they are written by programmers, and they assume you know
DT> way
>> too much. ^_-
>>
>> I think a lot of people ask for help not so much because they can't
>> master the language, but because they can't come up with the
>> algorithm that will do what they want to do. Maybe I'm wrong, but
>> that is my personal experience and take on this.
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