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[amibroker] Re: 10 uses for the #Include



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$60 / hour in this part of the world would be considered to be very 
cheap.  

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> > Insofar as ascii data is concerned I get hourly data
> > from a local vendor in India. I had approached TJ with
> > this problem -  his response was "Import means one
> > time import" and a direction to some programming
> > exercise one would have to conduct to create a plug-in
> > to do the needful. The implication of it to my mind
> > -either do it yourself or live with the nuisance.
> > Hardly the kind of response one would expect from "THE
> > MOST CUSTOMER FRIENDLY" software developer or maybe he
> > doesnt want non-programmers as his clients.
> 
> The truth is that I directed you to the sample code of ASCII
> plugin that is included in the ADK (AmiBroker developer kit).
> 
> A sample code would requires some tweaking for your
> particular data format but this is relatively easy.
> 
> If you are not a programmer you may ask the beginner adept
> of C++ to make some modifications for you.
> 
> As far as I remember I also wrote that I will expand the sample
> or provide pre-built plugin some day.
> 
> I think it is much better answer that you could get from other 
vendors.
> 
> > As for TimeFrame.dll - This was something a user was
> > kind enough to pass on to the group. It is not a
> > standard feature in the software and requires some
> > level of programming competence to understand how to
> > get it working.
> 
> Hmm... everything requires some level of competence.
> And... does the fact that the dll was kindly provided by Stephane 
Carrasset
> change anything ? Does it matter which hands wrote it ?
> I think it is great that we have some 3rd party plugins and
> I see no problem in using them.
> 
> 
> > My problem is I am programming challenged. I am a
> > trader and dont think I have the mind set required to
> > be a programmer. 
> 
> How about paying the programmer to code for you?
> 
> > I am sure even if a few, there will
> > be some people like me using AB. It will be nice for
> > us to know if TJ wishes to make his product such, that
> > non-programmers can use it with ease in an efficacious
> > manner. In this context his silence is particularly
> > deafening.
> 
> Do you expect me to write codes / formulas for everyone who 
> can not program ?
> 
> Do you know what is the average fee for custom programming ?
> I will give you some guidance. Equis for example charges (as far as 
I know)
> $60 per hour of custom formula programming. C++ programming is more 
expensive.
>  
> Do you know how much time is required to code the data plugin?
> 
> I will give you some guidance too: from 1-2 days (very simple EOD 
plugins) upto one month 
> (real time plugins). So the cost of programming such thing starts 
from 1..2 * 8h * $60 = $480...$960
> and ends at $14'000.
> 
> This is one of the reasons why I simply can not afford writing 
dedicated plugin for
> one person who does not know programming.
> 
> I can implement "inside free upgrade/support" such things only if
> - there is significant number of already registered users who would 
use it (absolute minimum 20 people)
> or
> - given feature would bring significant number of new registrations 
(again 20 people minimum)
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rakesh Sahgal" <rakeshsahgal@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 5:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] 10 uses for the #Include
> 
> 
> > Jayson,
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> 
> > My problem is I am programming challenged. I am a
> > trader and dont think I have the mind set required to
> > be a programmer. I am sure even if a few, there will
> > be some people like me using AB. It will be nice for
> > us to know if TJ wishes to make his product such, that
> > non-programmers can use it with ease in an efficacious
> > manner. In this context his silence is particularly
> > deafening.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rakesh
> > 
> > 
> > --- Jayson <jcasavant@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Rakesh,
> > > 
> > > see below......
> > > 
> > > Jayson
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rakesh Sahgal [mailto:rakeshsahgal@x...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:28 AM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] 10 uses for the #Include
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Arthur,
> > > 
> > > The last line of your communication sums up the AB
> > > group i.e people with programming inclinations
> > > wanting
> > > ever increasing sophistication.
> > > 
> > > Some things that I for instance would like to see
> > > are
> > > multple time frame analysis,
> > > 
> > > See the time frame DLL in the 3rd party section of
> > > the AB web site
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  making trendline studies
> > > etc live i.e. enabling setting of alarms on them,
> > > 
> > > That is currently available... I just posted the
> > > code 2 days ago in response
> > > to some one asking questions about alertIf. I use
> > > audible alarms every day.
> > > the code I posted allows for 3 different trend lines
> > > to trigger an alarm for
> > > crosses in either direction.......
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > making the data sources plugins more comprehensive(I
> > > for one find importing ascii data every time a new
> > > bar
> > > is added to the database very irritating). This is
> > > just some loud thinking on my part. If other
> > > discretionary traders would chip in with their
> > > thoughts it would be very helpful.
> > > 
> > > This depends on your data source. QP and TC2000
> > > databases currently are read
> > > directly via their respective plug ins. I believe
> > > this is also now possible
> > > with mytrack. If you are talking about free data
> > > from Yahoo or MSN then this
> > > data can be automatically updated via
> > > amiquote.......
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Also perhaps TJ
> > > would like to share his views on whether he intends
> > > to
> > > address the concerns/requiremetns of people like me
> > > as
> > > well or not and where do these concerns stand in his
> > > scheme of things?
> > > 
> > > Insofar as the vociferous system guys are concerned
> > > allow me to say this, it is not my intention to pick
> > > up a fight with this post. If you dont like any part
> > > of the message you know where the delete key is.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rakesh
> > > 
> > > --- Arthur Sawilejskij <arthur@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > At 05:49 PM 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > > :
> > > >Herman, where are you that places you in time about
> > > 12 hours ahead ofthe
> > > >east coast of Australia?
> > > >
> > > >It's not often I see posts dated before Australia's
> > > time zone, mostplaces
> > > >are behind us.
> > > >
> > > >Curiously,
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > 
> > > Hi Mark,
> > > 
> > > What have you been up to the last 2 weeks?
> > > 
> > > How was your Easter?
> > > 
> > > I've been busy gearing up to start day trading with
> > > DFF.
> > > 
> > > This has meant expanding my watchlist from 20 odd
> > > stock to the top 200 -over the next few weeks some
> > > of
> > > those will get cut for various reasons -probably
> > > mainly liquidity or lack of volatility.
> > > 
> > > I should get my account active on Monday - I've been
> > > paper trading daytrades the last few weeks - had
> > > some
> > > good winners and some losers. Thething is to cut the
> > > losses as quickly as possible - and let the
> > > profitsrun
> > > - banks have been good the last two weeks.
> > > 
> > > Taken a lot of work to get up to speed - I use a
> > > card
> > > system and diary torecord stuff for companies.
> > > 
> > > Sure, I base my trade on TA - but also can't ignore
> > > some of the news andfundamentals out there to
> > > confirm
> > > the moves.
> > > 
> > > So, what, if anything, have you been up to the last
> > > two weeks tradingwise?
> > > 
> > > Hasn't AB turned into a bit of a bun fight, eh -
> > > they
> > > seem to have lostall focus - it's more of a
> > > programming group now rather than a group oftraders
> > > using a common software.
> > > 
> > > Arthur
> > > 
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