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Re: [amibroker] 10 uses for the #Include



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Hello,

> Insofar as ascii data is concerned I get hourly data
> from a local vendor in India. I had approached TJ with
> this problem -  his response was "Import means one
> time import" and a direction to some programming
> exercise one would have to conduct to create a plug-in
> to do the needful. The implication of it to my mind
> -either do it yourself or live with the nuisance.
> Hardly the kind of response one would expect from "THE
> MOST CUSTOMER FRIENDLY" software developer or maybe he
> doesnt want non-programmers as his clients.

The truth is that I directed you to the sample code of ASCII
plugin that is included in the ADK (AmiBroker developer kit).

A sample code would requires some tweaking for your
particular data format but this is relatively easy.

If you are not a programmer you may ask the beginner adept
of C++ to make some modifications for you.

As far as I remember I also wrote that I will expand the sample
or provide pre-built plugin some day.

I think it is much better answer that you could get from other vendors.

> As for TimeFrame.dll - This was something a user was
> kind enough to pass on to the group. It is not a
> standard feature in the software and requires some
> level of programming competence to understand how to
> get it working.

Hmm... everything requires some level of competence.
And... does the fact that the dll was kindly provided by Stephane Carrasset
change anything ? Does it matter which hands wrote it ?
I think it is great that we have some 3rd party plugins and
I see no problem in using them.


> My problem is I am programming challenged. I am a
> trader and dont think I have the mind set required to
> be a programmer. 

How about paying the programmer to code for you?

> I am sure even if a few, there will
> be some people like me using AB. It will be nice for
> us to know if TJ wishes to make his product such, that
> non-programmers can use it with ease in an efficacious
> manner. In this context his silence is particularly
> deafening.

Do you expect me to write codes / formulas for everyone who 
can not program ?

Do you know what is the average fee for custom programming ?
I will give you some guidance. Equis for example charges (as far as I know)
$60 per hour of custom formula programming. C++ programming is more expensive.
 
Do you know how much time is required to code the data plugin?

I will give you some guidance too: from 1-2 days (very simple EOD plugins) upto one month 
(real time plugins). So the cost of programming such thing starts from 1..2 * 8h * $60 = $480...$960
and ends at $14'000.

This is one of the reasons why I simply can not afford writing dedicated plugin for
one person who does not know programming.

I can implement "inside free upgrade/support" such things only if
- there is significant number of already registered users who would use it (absolute minimum 20 people)
or
- given feature would bring significant number of new registrations (again 20 people minimum)

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rakesh Sahgal" <rakeshsahgal@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] 10 uses for the #Include


> Jayson,
> 

> 


> My problem is I am programming challenged. I am a
> trader and dont think I have the mind set required to
> be a programmer. I am sure even if a few, there will
> be some people like me using AB. It will be nice for
> us to know if TJ wishes to make his product such, that
> non-programmers can use it with ease in an efficacious
> manner. In this context his silence is particularly
> deafening.
> 
> 
> 
> Rakesh
> 
> 
> --- Jayson <jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Rakesh,
> > 
> > see below......
> > 
> > Jayson
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rakesh Sahgal [mailto:rakeshsahgal@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:28 AM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [amibroker] 10 uses for the #Include
> > 
> > 
> > Arthur,
> > 
> > The last line of your communication sums up the AB
> > group i.e people with programming inclinations
> > wanting
> > ever increasing sophistication.
> > 
> > Some things that I for instance would like to see
> > are
> > multple time frame analysis,
> > 
> > See the time frame DLL in the 3rd party section of
> > the AB web site
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  making trendline studies
> > etc live i.e. enabling setting of alarms on them,
> > 
> > That is currently available... I just posted the
> > code 2 days ago in response
> > to some one asking questions about alertIf. I use
> > audible alarms every day.
> > the code I posted allows for 3 different trend lines
> > to trigger an alarm for
> > crosses in either direction.......
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > making the data sources plugins more comprehensive(I
> > for one find importing ascii data every time a new
> > bar
> > is added to the database very irritating). This is
> > just some loud thinking on my part. If other
> > discretionary traders would chip in with their
> > thoughts it would be very helpful.
> > 
> > This depends on your data source. QP and TC2000
> > databases currently are read
> > directly via their respective plug ins. I believe
> > this is also now possible
> > with mytrack. If you are talking about free data
> > from Yahoo or MSN then this
> > data can be automatically updated via
> > amiquote.......
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Also perhaps TJ
> > would like to share his views on whether he intends
> > to
> > address the concerns/requiremetns of people like me
> > as
> > well or not and where do these concerns stand in his
> > scheme of things?
> > 
> > Insofar as the vociferous system guys are concerned
> > allow me to say this, it is not my intention to pick
> > up a fight with this post. If you dont like any part
> > of the message you know where the delete key is.
> > 
> > 
> > Rakesh
> > 
> > --- Arthur Sawilejskij <arthur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > At 05:49 PM 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > :
> > >Herman, where are you that places you in time about
> > 12 hours ahead ofthe
> > >east coast of Australia?
> > >
> > >It's not often I see posts dated before Australia's
> > time zone, mostplaces
> > >are behind us.
> > >
> > >Curiously,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > What have you been up to the last 2 weeks?
> > 
> > How was your Easter?
> > 
> > I've been busy gearing up to start day trading with
> > DFF.
> > 
> > This has meant expanding my watchlist from 20 odd
> > stock to the top 200 -over the next few weeks some
> > of
> > those will get cut for various reasons -probably
> > mainly liquidity or lack of volatility.
> > 
> > I should get my account active on Monday - I've been
> > paper trading daytrades the last few weeks - had
> > some
> > good winners and some losers. Thething is to cut the
> > losses as quickly as possible - and let the
> > profitsrun
> > - banks have been good the last two weeks.
> > 
> > Taken a lot of work to get up to speed - I use a
> > card
> > system and diary torecord stuff for companies.
> > 
> > Sure, I base my trade on TA - but also can't ignore
> > some of the news andfundamentals out there to
> > confirm
> > the moves.
> > 
> > So, what, if anything, have you been up to the last
> > two weeks tradingwise?
> > 
> > Hasn't AB turned into a bit of a bun fight, eh -
> > they
> > seem to have lostall focus - it's more of a
> > programming group now rather than a group oftraders
> > using a common software.
> > 
> > Arthur
> > 
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