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Re: [amibroker] Built-in DEMA questions



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DT,
 
Insightful investigation into DEMA. 
 
The phenomenon however is not related to variable 
periods as you get the same results if you replace the variable with a fixed 
value.
 
I would assume the DEMA results for the first 2*len 
periods would be erroneous - by definition....
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  Dimitris 
  Tsokakis 
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  Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:14 
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  Subject: [amibroker] Built-in DEMA 
  questions
  
  Some things should be explained about DEMA and its expected 
  behavior:Let us use a fast DEMA [green line, period=10] and a slow one 
  [yellow line, period=10]A third, variable period DEMA [the black thicker 
  line], uses the fast period and, suddenly, 200 bars ago, changes to 
  slow.The result will immediately leave the green curve, but asymptotically 
  touch the yellow one. It will not be a real 50-bar DEMA, even after 200 
  bars.Note that all this 200-bar period the variable DEMA stays higher than 
  the slow one. [above gif]To answer my [obvious] questions, I search the 
  available reference [instead of leaving my imagination to fly around].The 
  explanatory note via <A 
  href="">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/38844 
  sends me to <A 
  href="">http://www.amibroker.com/guide/afl/afl_view.php?name=DEMAwhere 
  I read the comment
   
  DEMA internally is implemented via 
  EMA:Len=10;Graph0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C, len ), Len 
  );// for comparison onlyGraph1=DEMA(C,Len);
   
  Some more explanations should be added 
  because:a. The built-in DEMA 
  begins from the first bar and the analytic EMA equivalent begins 400 bars 
  later. How the built-in DEMA is defined for the first 400 bars ? [The 
  question holds for IB and AA, see the simple exploration
   
  Len=200;G0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C, len ), Len 
  );G1=DEMA(C,Len);Filter=1;AddColumn(G0,"ANALYTIC 
  DEMA");AddColumn(G1,"DEMA");AddColumn(Cum(1),"BARS",1.0);
   
  and the att. gif]
   
  b. Should we 
  expect a 2*Len delayed response when variable periods is used 
  ?c. My CSCO history is 831 
  bars [Jan3, 2000 till now]. The Graph0= 2 * EMA( C, len ) - EMA( EMA( C, 
  len ), Len );begins on Aug2, 2001.c1.Can we 
  speak for a proper function use back in the critical Oct2, 2001 CSCO 
  low?The built-in DEMA is 11.53 and the EMA equivalent is 9.08 
  !!!!!c2.After how many bars the two formulas 
  are less than 1% diverging ?
   
  Built-in DEMA is, IMO, one of the most powerful AFL 
  tools, its use in trading systems design gives excellent resultsand this 
  is accurately translated to interesting profits. To avoid any 
  misunderstanding [the recent winds are S to SW, not that healthy...]my 
  questions do not search for built-in functions secrets, it would be useless to 
  me. 
  Just a better explanation to understandthe 
  expected DEMA behavior would encourage users/traders to step into 
  this great function. 5-10 lines would be more than enough, no need for 
  1000+ pages.Thank you in advance for any reply.Dimitris 
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