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size=2>Aberation requires about six lines of AB code and, to my knowledge, 
Trading Recipes is no longer being marketed.   I wrote to them about 
six months ago, offering to re-write it in for Windows (the last release was for 
DOS) for nothing.   They told me that the company was being wound up 
and that there was no interest in producing a Windows version.  Perhaps I 
was given the wrong information?
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Fred 
  [mailto:fctonetti@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:06 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] FW: 
  [aaft_ta] Re: TradingRecipesThose comments apply more 
  to futures trading because of the inherent leverage then they do to stocks 
  or mf's.  As far as Aberration goes, I'd suggest that anyone 
  interested check out the DD's. For some reason the code is still being 
  sold for in the $1000's, to whom I'm not sure, even though it's a 
  relatively simple, straight forward not terribly good system.  I've 
  seen lots of reviews from successful traders about TR and have long since 
  done my own testing on fixed fractional and optimal-F position sizing and 
  IMHO none of these approaches are worth much although people continue to 
  write books and sell software for them.--- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxx> wrote:> Re 
  the "portfolio level testing" magic bullet.> > Bob> 
  -----Original Message-----> From: Palmer Wright 
  [mailto:palmerw@xxxx]> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:27 PM> 
  To: aaft_ta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [aaft_ta] Fwd: Re: Available 
  Portfolio testing programs for> TS2000i> > > 
  Since Michael forwarded the two messages (see below), he added four> 
  additional ones. The issue about whether a "basket system" like 
  Aberration> is worth trading I will not discuss here (I still trade 
  it). The other main> issue is about the effect of compounding when 
  testing with TR (Trading> Recipes), and I comment here on 
  that.> > Traders buy TR because it can test portfolios of 
  systems and markets using> position sizing. A position-sizing 
  strategy such as fixed-fractional money> management brings two 
  advantages: it normalizes markets (eg., calculating> many contracts 
  for corn, but few for natural gas), and limits entry risk for> each 
  position to a fixed- fraction of current equity--thus preventing> 
  overtrading. If you do not use TR, I do not know how you can get the 
  large> returns that compounding multiple markets can bring.> 
  > Leslie Walko points to the potential danger of curve fitting caused 
  by> compounding. I agree, and have been concerned for years about 
  how one market> in a portfolio (commodity X) by being dramatically 
  profitable in a single> year can misleadingly bias the results of 
  the whole portfolio.> > During a multi-year test in TR, starting 
  equity is low, perhaps $100,000,> but compounding raises equity to 
  many million in later years. The one-year> outperformance of 
  commodity X cand produce two kinds of curve-fitting bias:> 
  early-years bias and end-years bias. Mark Johnson's message describes 
  the> first, where X gives "a big turbocharged boost" to the portfolio's 
  equity,> which then gives a head-start boost to the number of 
  trades in all the> commodities traded. The second occurs when X's 
  monster trades occur in the> final years of the simulated time 
  period when the large number of contracts> makes X's profit far 
  larger than if its big year came early. Here the> profits 
  contributed by X dwarf what they were in the first case.> > As 
  the message from M points out, we can avoid such biases by 
  normalizing> with a fixed-dollar bet size in testing to remove the 
  galloping equity> effect. I proposed this method in 1999, and still 
  use it to compare with the> compounded performance. I confess, 
  however, that my testing has failed to> find as much performance 
  bias as I suspected I would find. The method is> most important 
  when selecting markets for a portfolio.> > Palmer 
  Wright>   ----- Original Message ----->   
  From: Michael Guess>   To: 
  aaft_ta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:14 
  AM>   Subject: [aaft_ta] Fwd: Re: Available Portfolio testing 
  programs for> TS2000i> > >   This is 
  for Pat Mazur & Palmer Wright. Others are invited to comment. 
  I> forwarded these two messages from another list because we have 
  discussed> these issues in the past. It appears one of the posts is 
  saying Trading> Recipes is in error in the way it calculates. In 
  fact, that it curve fits> data in a particular case. Comments are 
  invited.> >   Michael> > 
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